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Jeff Higgins 03-22-2013 08:45 AM

Wow. I'm saddened that such a useless waste of public resources still exist with regards to CCW. Yes, indeed, it seems the goal is to make it so onerous as to discourage folks from even trying. Too bad getting, and staying on welfare in those states is likely not nearly as difficult.

Whatever happened to national recriprocity, or a national CCW? Or, even better, just dropping the whole thing - I agree with Ted Nugent - "the Second Ammendment is my carry permit".

weseeeee 03-22-2013 11:57 AM

I tried to carry a 1911 but it was too big and heavy. I now have a Kahr 380 which is similar to the LCP. If your 1911 starts getting heavy, consider the Kahr 380 or 9mm. Their trigger system seems to be a little smoother than some of the other double action small frame pistols. btw, due to the Kahr's size, I shoot mine best one handed.

jyl 03-22-2013 12:33 PM

What holster with your 1911? The cocked/locked carry demands a good holster, for safety.

I have a compact 1911 (Detonics CombatMaster) and even that is too heavy to carry happily. It is a weighty little lump. How Sonny carried one in an ankle holster I don't know.

Since the CCW permit thing is such a hassle, I'd get a couple more guns added to the list first time around.

azasadny 03-22-2013 02:26 PM

Yep!
 
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Originally Posted by on2wheels52 (Post 7343958)
I'd suggest another LCP for yourself. That .45 will get bigger and heavier every time you carry it.
Jim

I have my big pistols, but I carry the LCP the most...

fred cook 03-22-2013 02:40 PM

Thank goodness for Georgia!
 
If I want to carry concealed, I go to my local court house, fill in a form, pay a fee and then take the form to the Sheriff's office to be finger printed and pay another small fee. The state does it's investigation to determine that I am a good guy and the local official sends me a note that they have received the permit. Go back by the court house and pick it up! Once I have the Georgia issued CC permit, I can walk into any place that sells guns, plunk down my money, let them copy my CC permit and drivers license, fill out the Federal form affirming that I am buying the gun for my use and walk out the door with the new iron! No background check required! The time between applying for a permit and having it in hand is usually about a month.

Red88Carrera 03-22-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fred cook (Post 7345095)
No background check required!

I think you are mistaken. Have you ever heard of a NICS check?

allaircooled 03-22-2013 04:35 PM

Since people are posting pics of their rugers. Here is my LC9 that I bought myself for Christmas. Just a tad bigger than a LCP. I got mine with a crimson trace laser.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1363998828.jpg

on2wheels52 03-22-2013 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Red88Carrera (Post 7345100)
I think you are mistaken. Have you ever heard of a NICS check?

Most states that have CCP don't require the permit holder to undergo(?) the NICS check when purchasing a firearm. Their background had already been checked prior to the permit being issued.
Take a look at page 2 of the 4473 form. There is a line "No NICS check was required because the buyer has a valid permit from the State where the transfer is to take place....."
Jim

weseeeee 03-22-2013 04:39 PM

The LC9 looks nice, how does it shoot.

allaircooled 03-22-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by weseeeee (Post 7345282)
The LC9 looks nice, how does it shoot.

It took a little getting use to the extremely long trigger pull but I really like it. I have only shot a few mags through it because I haven't been home since January due to work. :rolleyes:

Rick Lee 03-22-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Red88Carrera (Post 7345100)
I think you are mistaken. Have you ever heard of a NICS check?

My CCW exempts me from NICS checks. I haven't done a NICS check since I lived in VA in 2008 and I've bought plenty of guns since then, both online, in stores and in parking lots. I just sent in my CCW renewal app with $43 fee this week, so they may do a NICS check for that. Otherwise, it's once every five years for me at renewal time.

fred cook 03-22-2013 05:55 PM

Not in Georgia.........
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red88Carrera (Post 7345100)
I think you are mistaken. Have you ever heard of a NICS check?

If you have a state issued CCW, no background check is required when buying a gun. If the buyer does not have a CCW, then the background check call is made. The state issued CCW has no place to list the weapon(s) or serial numbers. I can carry any thing that I own (or borrow) and still be legal!

Red88Carrera 03-22-2013 06:16 PM

My NY state pistol permit has all serial numbers and models listed on it. Every purchase includes a NICS check, even with a permit.

onewhippedpuppy 03-23-2013 03:33 AM

Ours in KS is pretty similar to many of yours. Take the 8 hour class and shooting qual, take the easy test, fee to county, fee to state, background check and fingerprints, max 90 day wait which is where I'm at. CCW applications are up around 1000% since the middle of last year so the approvals are taking a while. Once I get it I will no longer have to wait on the background check when purchasing and can carry whatever I want. I never realized that some states make you list serial numbers, someone should challenge that in court.

That Ruger is crazy small, I looked at one last night. If my P250 sub compact proves to be too bulky I'll probably go that route.

jyl 03-23-2013 05:58 AM

ATF Online - Firearms - Brady Law / NICS - Permit Chart

Depends on state

Tim Hancock 03-23-2013 06:06 AM

FWIW, the Taurus "TCP" is the same size as the Ruger "LCP" and comes with a spare mag for typically $30 or so less. The TCP has slightly larger sights, 5 pound vs 8 pound trigger and last shot hold open. I tried and liked them both, but for my money I am happy I went with the two TCP's in black stainless for my wife and myself.

Even slightly larger pistols are just not as easily carried in a sleeve in either the front or rear Levis pocket. I encourage anyone looking for a small carry gun to slip one of these in their pockets.... They truly are as comfortable as a cell phone in one's pocket.

Mike80911 03-23-2013 06:59 AM

What type of holster are you guys using to carry the LCP in your pocket?

Red88Carrera 03-23-2013 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike80911 (Post 7345965)
What type of holster are you guys using to carry the LCP in your pocket?

DeSantis Nemesis

glewis80SC 03-25-2013 05:56 PM

Thanks for input I know the 1911 is heavy but I've talked with some that carry them and they get used to it. I love the pistol so I'll give it a try.
I live in the lovely state of California, luckily in a county that still issues CCW's,so the process is lengthy. I have to list the guns I will carry, a max of three, full application and a letter of "purpose" or why I think I need the permit. Then an interview with the Sheriff's dept. They do background check and I get a yay or nay.
Getting the two guns has been fun because neither are on California's Gun Roster, a whole other story.
My Brother in Law carries the LC9 and loves it, if the 1911 gets to be much I'll probably go to the LC9, but I like the .45 size. Ruger has a compact 1911 now. Who knows only time will tell.

red-beard 03-25-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike80911 (Post 7345965)
What type of holster are you guys using to carry the LCP in your pocket?

I use a zipped rectangular rug made of ballistic nylon. With a spare mag under the trigger, it prints wallet in a back pocket.


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