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trekkor 03-29-2013 09:34 AM

If this is a DIY tile job, 18x18 over concrete is a pretty difficult install.


KT

mattdavis11 03-29-2013 09:53 AM

No it's not. It might be labor intensive, but it's not difficult. Prep the surface, lay out your tile, starting in the center of the room, arrange the tile how you want it, ie. square, diamond or what not, then work off of it. Don't call me when it comes to grouting.

A good set of knee pads is a must.

mattdavis11 03-29-2013 09:55 AM

If your surface is wood, given your climate, you might consider putting down a vapor barrier.

Zeke 03-29-2013 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattdavis11 (Post 7357551)
If your surface is wood, given your climate, you might consider putting down a vapor barrier under the wood..

That's exactly what the old vinyl floor is doing.

mattdavis11 03-29-2013 10:11 AM

right, don't know what I was thinking. Between all the concrete and wood, vinyl, linoleum, I lost focus.

dad911 03-29-2013 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattdavis11 (Post 7357548)
No it's not. It might be labor intensive, but it's not difficult. Prep the surface, lay out your tile, starting in the center of the room, arrange the tile how you want it, ie. square, diamond or what not, then work off of it. Don't call me when it comes to grouting.

A good set of knee pads is a must.

Yup it is. For 18x18 the floor must be very level.

OP - Lots of 'interesting' advice in this thread, think about it, and do it right.

Trekkor - scrape the old floor up, check for humps with a straightedge, perhaps a leveling compound... why the Hardiebacker over a concrete floor?

Instrument 41 03-29-2013 11:43 AM

thanks guys, concrete floors

rnln 03-29-2013 03:19 PM

I say depend on what result do you expect. If expecting an ok result, that is it very hard, but if expecting a perfect/beautiful tiles job, it's can be very hard. I know someone who cares every single gaps between tiles, in fact no gap at all. It has to be perfectly leveled everywhere, knocking every tile with a coin after done, and more. To get to that level, the bigger tha tile, the harder it get.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattdavis11 (Post 7357548)
No it's not. It might be labor intensive, but it's not difficult. Prep the surface, lay out your tile, starting in the center of the room, arrange the tile how you want it, ie. square, diamond or what not, then work off of it. Don't call me when it comes to grouting.

A good set of knee pads is a must.


rnln 03-29-2013 03:25 PM

To prevent tile crack, maybe?
I am thinking about hardi board or maybe kerdi ditra
http://www.johnbridge.com/wp-content...itra-deck4.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 7357650)
Yup it is. For 18x18 the floor must be very level.

OP - Lots of 'interesting' advice in this thread, think about it, and do it right.

Trekkor - scrape the old floor up, check for humps with a straightedge, perhaps a leveling compound... why the Hardiebacker over a concrete floor?


trekkor 03-29-2013 07:40 PM

I was responding to another post regarding the Hardiebacker.

Over concrete, scrape all the old adhesive off. Cover any cracks with an isolation membrane.

I will never use Ditra.


KT

trekkor 03-29-2013 07:46 PM

For 18x18 you should have less than 1/16 of surface deflection in 4 ft.
I use Level Quik self leveling underlayment from Custom exclusively.

LevelQuik® RS (Rapid Setting) Self-Leveling Underlayment | Custom Building Products


KT

drcoastline 03-29-2013 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 7358639)
I was responding to another post regarding the Hardiebacker.

Over concrete, scrape all the old adhesive off. Cover any cracks with an isolation membrane.

I will never use Ditra.


KT

My appologies. I rushed my reponse and missed read the OP. Hardi backer isnt needed in this application due to concrete floors. I agree scrape up the vinyl check for level. thinset new tiles down.

rnln 04-15-2013 10:00 AM

trekkor,
I was thinking that I will use ditra on my next floor tiles on concrete, but if you don't like it, there must be a reason that you can see. Can you go into a little more detail? And can you recommend some kinds of isolation membrane?


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