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romad 04-07-2013 04:29 PM

new Garage/machine shop begin
 
Trees coming down even started buying the machines.....anyway building a 24 x 32. One hole to store a car, the other for the shop. The shop will have vaulted ceiling for a lift.

trees coming down for driveway

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365380592.jpg

latest pick up from a school auction, Rockwell 15-665. Tight as "insert cliche". You get the best tools from school auctions.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365380646.jpg

redstrosekNic 04-07-2013 05:04 PM

I can't wait to see pics of the progress as it happens! I love watching garages come to life :)

Geneman 04-07-2013 06:56 PM

thats really cool.. never heard of a school auction..is this where a school or district is just shutting down its shops(or upgradiing equipment) where do you find theses auctions advertised ?? very cool. please email me rauscher@wistar.org

thanks! frank

jim72911t 04-07-2013 07:55 PM

Are you going to drop 3 phase to the new building? Most decent machine tools will require 3 phase or a phase converter.

In other words, stay away from the Chinese crap you can find at Harbor Fright or Grizzly. If you keep scouring those school actions, you should be able to pick up a decent Bridgeport mill and South Bend lathe for a good price. Might even be able to get them fully tooled, too. (You will spend as much on tooling as you do on the machines before you are done.)

That Rockwell was a good find; nice! Keep us posted on the progress.

Tim Hancock 04-08-2013 02:36 AM

I run my 3 phase Bridgeport 1.5hp mill using a cheap 3hp Phoenix phase converter that cost just under $100.

romad 04-08-2013 03:35 AM

Can't run 3 ph, I'll just run any 3ph off a static converter, like Tim does. You loss some power, but nothing to hamper any ops I'm going to be doing. I'm looking for a well use Bridgeport type mill and a Monarch lathe, I would take a well use South Bend or Clausing. I have run into many deals over the years but never had the space. Lucky I have control of a pretty good machine shop at work.;)

Geneman
Many schools are dumping shop classes, normally the equipment goes to auction, check the bigger auction houses periodically. The equipment can have some rough use , but its generally never worn out like equipment out of a job shop.

will944 04-08-2013 04:04 AM

Nice! What do you plan to use the shop for?

We've unloaded a number of machines over the years....typically to anyone who will take them out of our building! My cousin builds bicycle frames.....we gave him a Clausing for some of his fabrication work. My father's Ferrari mechanic has a couple of our old Bridgeports as well.

romad 04-08-2013 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will944 (Post 7374441)
Nice! What do you plan to use the shop for?

We've unloaded a number of machines over the years....typically to anyone who will take them out of our building! My cousin builds bicycle frames.....we gave him a Clausing for some of his fabrication work. My father's Ferrari mechanic has a couple of our old Bridgeport's as well.

Its generally going to be a hobby shop for my cars,bikes, engines and hopefully some kit plane. I'll also do the occasional equipment repair, parts fab, or engine build for cash when they come up. If any grand kids( that I don't have yet) in the future get into karts I'll start building engine again in a big way. I wish I lived closer I would gladly help "dispose" of any equipment you needed gone.:D

nocarrier 04-08-2013 05:59 AM

For 3ph I suggest you take a look at a variable frequency drive.

I run both my milling machine and my lathe using these. You get full 3phase power, infinite speed adjustment, soft starting, cw and ccw rotation and much more.

romad 07-09-2013 02:30 PM

Well the zoning crap ended and I lost so I can only build a 24x30 ft building. Anyway the design is done and the foundation will be poured soon. I designed it around a 12 ft overhead two post, probably a Revolution or Dannmar. Started looking at the Rotary "Smart lift" in-ground, but 7-8 grand is too much. Also lose lifting, and storage functions of an above ground.....But man it sure makes for a clean set up. Will submit pics on progress.

dad911 07-09-2013 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nocarrier (Post 7374572)
For 3ph I suggest you take a look at a variable frequency drive.

I run both my milling machine and my lathe using these. You get full 3phase power, infinite speed adjustment, soft starting, cw and ccw rotation and much more.

Yup, I am actually converting my lathe to 3ph for the VFD.

johnsjmc 07-09-2013 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romad (Post 7373849)
Trees coming down even started buying the machines.....anyway building a 24 x 32. One hole to store a car, the other for the shop. The shop will have vaulted ceiling for a lift.

trees coming down for driveway

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365380592.jpg

latest pick up from a school auction, Rockwell 15-665. Tight as "insert cliche". You get the best tools from school auctions.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365380646.jpg

Nice. Build with as much ceiling height as possible all over .You won,t regret it.
D
School drill presses around here are nice HD unit,s like the rockwell but usually the table is almost cut in half by novice deep drilling into it.

romad 07-24-2013 11:45 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1374694960.jpg
where the trees were and where the drive will go.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1374694998.jpg
Little 24x30 foundation will go in tommrow or friday. Made the front pad longer 12 x 15. The white stakes are the thicken pads for the lift.

romad 07-25-2013 12:46 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1374785211.jpg

romad 08-26-2013 04:58 AM

Walls...truss come todahttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1377521873.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1377521895.jpg

romad 09-09-2013 05:56 AM

slowly but surly
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1378734939.jpg
Porsche cave
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1378734967.jpg
vaulted ceiling for lift
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1378734979.jpg

MotoSook 09-09-2013 06:35 AM

Nice. The two overhead door is smart. In my old shop and my current shop, there are two doors and it's great for cross breeze in the summer...no AC needed. Good luck with the rest of the construction.

One tip....run water top the shop if you can.

romad 09-09-2013 08:41 AM

side door is the porsche cave. I'm going to install a sink right next to that door.

john70t 09-09-2013 09:15 AM

I hope the sill plate is bolted and wolmanized(copper azole instead of arsenic nowadays).
It should rest on top a vapor barrier.
Concrete soaks up water, and transfers it to wood.

I would dig/trench down and leave 6" coated concrete foundation exposed for termites as well.

Also, when the piles of melting snow soak into the sill, there will be rotting problems.
Spend the money and seal that connection now!
Use rubber roof shield, plus thick upwards sprayed sealant which overlaps the foundation!
You'll thank me later.


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