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Baz 04-08-2013 04:35 AM

R.I.P. Margaret Thatcher
 
We've lost a great friend..... :(

Margaret Thatcher, Britain's first female PM, dead at 87 - CNN.com

London (CNN) -- Former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, a towering figure in post-war British and world politics, and the first woman to become British prime minister, has died at the age of 87, her spokeswoman said Monday.

Thatcher served from 1979 to 1990 as leader of the Conservative Party. She was called the "Iron Lady" for her personal and political toughness.

Thatcher retired from public life after a stroke in 2002 and suffered several strokes after that.

She made few public appearances in her final months, missing a reception marking her 85th birthday hosted by Prime Minister David Cameron in October 2010. She also skipped the July 2011 unveiling of a statue honoring her old friend Ronald Reagan in London.

In December 2012, she was hospitalized after a procedure to remove a growth in her bladder.

Thatcher made history

Thatcher won the nation's top job only six years after declaring in a television interview, "I don't think there will be a woman prime minister in my lifetime."

During her time at the helm of the British government, she emphasized moral absolutism, nationalism, and the rights of the individual versus that of the state -- famously declaring, "There is no such thing as society" in 1987.

Nicknamed the "Iron Lady" by the Soviet press after a 1976 speech declaring that "the Russians are bent on world dominance," Thatcher later enjoyed a close working relationship with U.S. President Reagan, with whom she shared similar conservative views.

But the British cold warrior played a key role in ending the conflict by giving her stamp of approval to Soviet Communist reformer Mikhail Gorbachev shortly before he came to power.

"I like Mr. Gorbachev. We can do business together," she famously declared in December 1984, three months before he became Soviet leader.

Having been right about Gorbachev, Thatcher came down on the wrong side of history after the Berlin Wall fell in 1989, arguing against the reunification of East and West Germany.

Allowing the countries created in the aftermath of World II to merge would be destabilizing to the European status quo, and East Germany was not ready to become part of Western Europe, she insisted in January 1990.

"East Germany has been under Nazism or communism since 1930. You are not going to go overnight to democratic structures and a freer market economy," Thatcher insisted in a key interview, arguing that peace, security and stability "can only be achieved through our existing alliances negotiating with others internationally."

West German leader Helmut Kohl was furious about the interview, seeing Thatcher as a "protector of Gobachev," according to notes made that day by his close aide Horst Teltschik.

The two Germanies reunited by the end of that year.

Thatcher -- born in October 1925 in the small eastern England market town of Grantham -- came from a modest background, taking pride in being known as a grocer's daughter. She studied chemistry at Oxford, but was involved in politics from a young age, giving her first political speech at 20, according to her official biography.

She was elected leader of the Conservative Party in 1975, when the party was in opposition.

She made history four years later, becoming prime minister when the Conservatives won the elections of 1979, the first of three election victories she led her party to.

As British leader, Thatcher took a firm stance with the European Community -- the forerunner of the European Union -- demanding a rebate of money London contributed to Brussels.

Her positions on other issues, both domestic and foreign, were just as firm, and in one of her most famous phrases, she declared at a Conservative party conference that she had no intention of changing her mind.

"To those waiting with bated breath for that favorite media catchphrase, the U-turn, I have only one thing to say: 'You turn if you want to. The lady's not for turning,'" she declared, to cheers from party members.

The United Kingdom fought a short, sharp war against Argentina over the Falklands Islands under Thatcher in 1982, responding with force when Buenos Aires laid claim to the islands.

Announcing that Britain had recaptured South Georgia Island from Argentina, Thatcher appealed to nationalist sentiments, advising the press: "Just rejoice at the news and congratulate our forces."

A journalist shouted a question at her as she turned to go back into 10 Downing Street: "Are we going to war with Argentina, Mrs. Thatcher?"

She paused for an instant, then offered a single word: "Rejoice."

The conflict was not without controversy, even in Britain.

A British submarine sank Argentina's only cruiser, the General Belgrano, in an encounter that left 358 Argentines dead. The sinking took place outside of Britain's declared exclusion zone.

In her first term, Thatcher reduced or eliminated many government subsidies to business, a move that led to a sharp rise in unemployment. By 1986, unemployment had reached 3 million.

But Thatcher won landslide re-election in 1983 on the heels of the Falklands victory, her Conservative Party taking a majority of seats in parliament with 42% of the vote. Second-place Labour took nearly 28%, while the alliance that became the Liberal Democrats took just over 25%.

A year later, she escaped at IRA terrorist bombing at her hotel at the Conservative Party Conference in Brighton.

She was re-elected in 1987 with a slightly reduced majority.

She was ultimately brought down, not by British voters, but by her own Conservative party.

She was forced to resign in 1990 during an internal leadership struggle after she introduced a poll tax levied on community residents rather than property.

The unpopular tax led to rioting in the streets.

She married her husband, Denis Thatcher, a local businessman who ran his family's firm before becoming an executive in the oil industry, in 1951 -- a year after an unsuccessful run for Parliament. The couple had twins, Mark and Carol, in 1953.

She was elected to Parliament in 1959 and served various positions, including education secretary, until her terms as prime minister.

Thatcher was awarded the U.S. Medal of Freedom by President George H. W. Bush in 1991, a year after she stepped down as prime minister. She was named Baroness Thatcher of Kesteven after leaving office.

She retired from public life after a stroke in 2002 and suffered several smaller strokes after that. Her husband died in June 2003.

Though her doctors advised against public speaking, a frail Thatcher attended Reagan's 2004 funeral, saying in a pre-recorded video that Reagan was "a great president, a great American, and a great man."

"And I have lost a dear friend," she said.

In the years that followed she encountered additional turmoil -- namely in 2004, when her son, Mark Thatcher, was arrested in an investigation of an alleged plot by mercenaries to overthrow the president of Equatorial Guinea in west Africa. He pleaded guilty in a South African court in 2005 to unwittingly bankrolling the plot.

stuttgart46 04-08-2013 04:43 AM

RIP.
She was one tough broad.

red-beard 04-08-2013 05:08 AM

Great Person! She will be missed!

cairns 04-08-2013 05:12 AM

She never went wobbly. A great leader and a wonderful person.

MRM 04-08-2013 05:21 AM

What a giant. The heir to Churchill's legacy.

s_morrison57 04-08-2013 05:39 AM

I liked her, she hung out in a man's world and did very well at it, she had a set alright.
RIP MT

FLYGEEZER 04-08-2013 06:28 AM

RIP Maggie and thank you.

Kraftwerk 04-08-2013 06:41 AM

Great speaker helped end the cold war. Will be good to read her biography someday. She was a great fan of Lincoln, as was her speech writer. Thanks for all the info Bazza.
Falklands was a huge gaff IMO. I think she had her reasons about German Unification. Look at where Germany is today compared to Great Britain.
Hard to live down the "poll tax' thing though, just a tax on the poor really, in a very class stratified country. That kind of thing never goes over well, but what a leader. What she didn't ruin of the working class &coal industry Blair certainly finished. There are similarities to how the working class here has been gutted, in the USA.

scottbombedout 04-08-2013 07:53 AM

A wonderful destroyer of communities.

varmint 04-08-2013 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by scottbombedout (Post 7374714)
A wonderful destroyer of communities.



pathetic.

varmint 04-08-2013 08:18 AM

SIMON: Why did Margaret Thatcher spank you?

Mr. HITCHENS: Well, I think it was because she had read my article in The New Statesmen, the then-socialist opposition magazine in London, in which I had said - contrary to the prevailing view at the time, which was that she was a frumpish suburban housewife of no talent, that I thought she had a great future, and that among other things I thought she had some kind of charisma which was highly sexual.

Anyway, she seemed to know who I was when we were introduced, and became rather flirtatious. And then we got into a fight, picked by me, about Zimbabwe, where as it happens I was right and she was wrong, but never mind. I sort of bowed to acknowledge her point. And then she said - I can still hear it - she said: No, bow lower.

So all volition deserting me, I did bow lower, and then straightened up again. She said: No, no, much lower. So again, I found myself sort of bending right forward. There were witnesses to this, as I say in the book. And all the while she'd been rolling up a parliamentary audit paper. The event - the party where we met was in the House of Lords - and stepped (unintelligible) smacked me right across my bottom.

And then, as I regain the vertical, with some difficulty, she walked away, rolling her hip - I swear it - and looked over her shoulder and said: Naughty boy.

(Soundbite of laughter)

Mr. HITCHENS: And I trudged back across Westminster Bridge to my little dump of an apartment in North London, thinking this woman has definitely got something and it's amazing how people don't see it.

A930Rocket 04-08-2013 08:42 AM

RIP. Those were the days....

Nostril Cheese 04-08-2013 08:47 AM

Linwood no more..

pwd72s 04-08-2013 09:42 AM

Alas, all that she and Reagan accomplished has been undone.

Rest In Peace, Maggie...:(

Hugh R 04-08-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by scottbombedout (Post 7374714)
A wonderful destroyer of communities.

Since you live there, how so? I would like your perspective.

scottbombedout 04-08-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hugh R (Post 7374964)
Since you live there, how so? I would like your perspective.

I would like to give it Hugh but it would be swiftly moved to PARF.

Hard to give an opinion when such a mild statement elicits a comment of 'pathetic' from some posters. Which is in itself pathetic :p

However from a US point of view she was undoubtedly a great Prime Minister. No question.

From a domestic POV she will remain as devisive in death as she was in life.

Funnily enough I have been thinking about joining the Conservative Party recently. Today has been a reminder of why I never have.

yazhound 04-08-2013 10:40 AM

Go Nukes eh?!
 
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Originally Posted by scottbombedout (Post 7374714)
A wonderful destroyer of communities.

Always makes folks feel better when the talk is tough... makes us a giant?

scottbombedout 04-08-2013 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by yazhound (Post 7375059)
Always makes folks feel better when the talk is tough... makes us a giant?

Perhaps I can defer to your obvious expertise in such matters...

cashflyer 04-08-2013 10:57 AM

She certainly made history - especially in the north of Ireland.

yazhound 04-08-2013 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by scottbombedout (Post 7375083)
Perhaps I can defer to your obvious expertise in such matters...

I was really agreeing with your assessment. Reagan and Thatcher made many feel good for their tough talk, and would be tough policies, often to the detriment of the less wealthy.

Reagan admin found ketchup to be a veggie.... so kids got a vegtable "serving" when eating ketchup. So that made school lunches more nutrious immediately.


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