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mikeesik 04-12-2013 06:27 PM

My father is an expert Machinist. He owned a very significant manufacturing shop.
I, am very good as a Machinist and have it in my blood as well.
I figure I need another five years of blood-letting to match up with him.
I swear, he shat gears, perhaps this is the reason he mirrored Hitlers moods. It hurt like hell.

M.D. Holloway 04-12-2013 09:02 PM

Yes - actually I am considered an expert...no really! Stop laughing! Really!!! :)

quicksix 04-12-2013 09:17 PM

I am an expert at spotting internet bull****.
Hitler did not have" moods"
and yes it did hurt like hell....

Bill Douglas 04-12-2013 11:03 PM

I used to work for a place called Industrial reaseach Ltd and there was a pretty young chickie who stayed on at uni because didn't want a job/the guys were easy/her parents had lots of money/the food is good at the uni cafe anyway she ended up with a BA, MA, PhD in engineering specializing in metal fatigue and metal failures. She wasn't smart or anything but no one else had the qualifications or, I guess experiance, so she was considered the country's expert. She made the ruling in situations like gas tanks exploding and heat exchangers premeturely corroding as to what was the fault and who was in the wrong. In a court of law the judge is better covered for his decission by siding with the PhD than the old fulla who recons he knows.

Geronimo '74 04-12-2013 11:38 PM

For some, all it takes is screen name and a loud mouth...

VINMAN 04-13-2013 02:19 AM

Experience trumps education.

mjohnson 04-13-2013 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeSid (Post 7383279)
There is an element of distilling the body of knowledge. Otherwise, you'd just be an encyclopedia of facts.

So, you aren't an expert if you can't effectively explain to just about anyone the subject of your expertise. I don't care how complicated it is, if you can't explain it to the man on the street, that's not his problem. You should be able to break it down to anyone.

Yup! If you resort to confusing jargon to explain what you do and why it matters - you aren't an expert.

In my line of work it sort of falls to "how far do people come for your advice/opinion?".
office < building < division < entire nat'l lab < nation < world
Expert seems to fall at the division/lab level. Meaning that you're one of two or three here in Los Alamos, fifth out of six scientist/engineer grades. Our highest engineer grade however specifies "transcends world class", whatever that means...

pavulon 04-13-2013 07:35 AM

Hmmm...I'm not sure being an expert necessarily demands that one communicates their expertise in words. It may help if trying to teach or educate but there is this sort of guy.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365867283.jpg

Rodsrsr 04-13-2013 08:04 AM

Everyone on PARF is an expert....

sc_rufctr 04-13-2013 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 7383571)
An expert in the trades is known as a master craftsman. There are few left.

Sad but true. There are lots of "tradies" but only a few are any good.

sammyg2 04-13-2013 12:55 PM

I am considered to be an expert in my field by my piers.
I agree with them of course, but they started it.

Education helped a little, 33 years experience didn't hurt, but as I tell my proteges, it's all about curiosity.
WHY?
Why it is like that? Why does it work that way?
Why do they do it that way? What happens if ....

Trying to fully understand everything around you and working toward that goal with constant research, homework, study, is what makes someone a true expert. Spending a career learning and understanding.

PS:
I also consider false modesty to be a form of dishonesty.

imcarthur 04-13-2013 01:46 PM

^^^^^ this. Except I am at 31 years. (edit: and I suck at math - although I did just get back from a week in Vegas . . .)

And that is one on the reasons I started a move into Pro audio five years ago. Being a resident 'expert' gets really stale after a while.

Ian

Edit: Btw it is peers. I am also renowned for my editing of magazine reviews . . .

steve185 04-13-2013 02:52 PM

Experience and or education can make a person an expert.

In court, an expert is a person who has knowledge over and above what a lay person has. The role of the expert in a trial setting is to assist the court.

I have been declared an expert in crime scene examination and fingerprint identification.

ckelly78z 04-13-2013 04:44 PM

I am a self proclaimed "master of my domain". It seems like experts in a certain field are anything but experts in all other life skills.....almost like savants.

Buckterrier 04-13-2013 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VINMAN (Post 7383854)
Experience trumps education.

By a ton. I've worked with degreed engineers that were idiots and I've worked with experienced engineers with no degree that were awesome. I'll take the experienced guy any day.

ZAMIRZ 04-13-2013 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 7384494)
I am considered to be an expert in my field by my piers.
I agree with them of course, but they started it.

I find piers agreeable as well.

http://statenislandusa.com/images/pier_aerial.jpg

Buckterrier 04-13-2013 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZAMIRZ (Post 7384823)

Consider the source. Thank God I don't have to deal with this expert :rolleyes:
Hell I don't even have piers ;)

ckelly78z 04-13-2013 05:44 PM

Piers Morgan is an expert....just ask him !

BeyGon 04-13-2013 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckelly78z (Post 7384843)
Piers Morgan is an expert....just ask him !

That's it, everyone on CNN is an expert.

pavulon 04-13-2013 06:41 PM

Don't know if it's a slow night over there, but let's not PARF it up here. Thanks.


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