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recycled sixtie 04-13-2013 11:57 AM

A slippery question or maybe not....
 
When I put this point out there I think of it as a Lubie question but I should not aspire to such lofty heights as the Lubie palace has a slippery slope that I could not climb. Anyway here goes. A woman in her 60's and a man in his 60's each become single for whatever reason. The man most likely is looking for a gal that can provide sex and the woman is likely looking for a man with money(the woman does not need so much if any sex at that age). So they live together/get married and the sex tap dries up and the man is left high and dry. In the meantime statistically the man dies first and the woman is left with some or all of his estate.

Lesson learned. If you end up alone, live alone. Then you have a girlfriend(s) come and go and your children get to inherit your estate. Tell me am I right or wrong? Female input is also encouraged.How do you like my thinking? Or am I just bent and twisted in my thinking?:):)

Seahawk 04-13-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by recycled sixtie (Post 7384421)
...The man most likely is looking for a gal that can provide sex and the woman is likely looking for a man with money(the woman does not need so much if any sex at that age). So they live together/get married and the sex tap dries up and the man is left high and dry. In the meantime statistically the man dies first and the woman is left with some or all of his estate.

Lesson learned. If you end up alone, live alone. Then you have a girlfriend(s) come and go and your children get to inherit your estate. Tell me am I right or wrong? Female input is also encouraged.How do you like my thinking? Or am I just bent and twisted in my thinking?:):)

According to a study published in the Student British Medical Journal, rates of sexually transmitted disease among U.S., Canadian and British baby boomers have doubled over the last decade as fewer seniors are practicing safe sex. The study also found that 80 percent of adults between 50 and 90 years of age are sexually active.

I plan on staying in the majority, YMMV.

recycled sixtie 04-13-2013 12:31 PM

Good response Seahawk. Also I understand(don't have the source) but apparently divorce rates have increased in the 50-60 year olds because the empty nest presents the situation of where the kids are gone and the husband and wife look at each other and one or both may ask do I want to spend the rest of my life with this person?

Yes I will stay with the one I know and I will be in the majority!:)

URY914 04-13-2013 01:39 PM

I have a brother who is 63 retired, single after three failed marriges. He lives alone, is in failing health and he lives a sad life. He will never find anyone now. If he hadn't have been such an a-hole, he would at least be with someone now to live out his final days.

Ever since I was a kid, I've learned from watching his mistakes.

Laneco 04-13-2013 03:01 PM

WHOA!!! So there is an 80% chance that I'll still be doing the mambo of delight at 90?

BAZINGA!!!! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat3.gif

angela

ZOA NOM 04-13-2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Laneco (Post 7384640)
WHOA!!! So there is an 80% chance that I'll still be doing the mambo of delight at 90?

BAZINGA!!!! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat3.gif

angela

Yeah, but for you it's simply a choice. For us it's a hope. :(

BE911SC 04-13-2013 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by recycled sixtie (Post 7384421)
A woman in her 60's and a man in his 60's each become single for whatever reason. The man most likely is looking for a gal that can provide sex and the woman is likely looking for a man with money(the woman does not need so much if any sex at that age). So they live together/get married and the sex tap dries up and the man is left high and dry. In the meantime statistically the man dies first and the woman is left with some or all of his estate.

If he has any estate at all he'd be insane to remarry without a pre-nup. Probably cheaper for him to remain single and set money aside for healthcare as he needs it. Let's face it guys, marriage is a business deal. Love is nice but when you make it legal it's all business. Choose well. My advice to men with any real equity/estate at stake is either stay away from the altar or at least get a pre-nup and hope it's a good one. There's a reason women get upset and throw engagement rings back at their fiancées when he asks for a pre-nup.

A female friend of mine once explained Viagra (and Cialis) to me. I was critical of the TV commercials showing these 50-something married couples acting so playful and I asked, "Where are all these 50-ish married women who want to have all this sex?" I inferred that the sex was with their husbands, as the commercials seem to show. She said, "Dummy, it's not for sex with their wives, it's for competing for younger women." Well DUH. Women, wives, have almost all they want by the time they get the kid(s) out of the house and one of the last things they want is a horny husband with a boosted stiffy chasing her around. So yeah, if an older guy with any means is seeking sex then stay away from marriage. Oh, and get snipped. Sperm can be worth quite a lot when inserted into the wrong woman. Women in their 50s want what they always want: permanent financial security. Yes, companionship is a big part of it but not with a man who has little to no financial muscle.

Go ahead, don't believe me. ;)

recycled sixtie 04-13-2013 04:02 PM

Yes my wife says it is all about money at that age(60's). But I said that when I met her I did not have any(in my late 30's)! As we approach the last third of our life it becomes the thin edge of the wedge and the earning potential is not there anymore.

All excellent points from you all above!

M.D. Holloway 04-14-2013 04:35 AM

It's always about either money or sex - sex is a commodity, money is a means to obtain commodities. Yea yea yea sex is beautiful and a great experience to share with someone you love ... We get that but so is a nice watch, a steak dinner and a full tank of gas.

As we going into our grey years, companionship is very important but let's not kid our selves - there are women out there who will provide you some very excellent sex for about what you would pay for a decent date with out all the crap that can come along with it.

Date women for companionship, call a 'girl' to bust a nut...

sc_rufctr 04-14-2013 05:19 AM

I'm 48 and don't plan on getting married again but who knows?

My GF is nice and we get along really well but she's headed back to the US in about 3 months. We've talked about stuff and we agreed to see how we feel after she goes home. No offence but I can't see myself living in the US permanently so what that really means is that it's over once she leaves.

What I've learned is that you have to think with your head (the big one) before doing anything semi permanent. When you're young it's easy to say I love you and and let's get married. Not so easy now.

"Why buy when you can rent" seems to be the norm amongst my male friends now and most of the women I know of similar age have all but given up.

I will never get married without a prenup. That's absolutely not negotiable.
Even if I met a lady who was an heir to a fortune I would still want a prenup and I fully expect she would want the same.

recycled sixtie 04-14-2013 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 7385425)
I'm 48 and don't plan on getting married again but who knows?

My GF is nice and we get along really well but she's headed back to the US in about 3 months. We've talked about stuff and we agreed to see how we feel after she goes home. No offence but I can't see myself living in the US permanently so what that really means is that it's over once she leaves.

What I've learned is that you have to think with your head (the big one) before doing anything semi permanent. When you're young it's easy to say I love you and and let's get married. Not so easy now.

"Why buy when you can rent" seems to be the norm amongst my male friends now and most of the women I know of similar age have all but given up.

I will never get married without a prenup. That's absolutely not negotiable.
Even if I met a lady who was an heir to a fortune I would still want a prenup and I fully expect she would want the same.

I am traditional enough such that wanting to have a child I got married first. It gets seriously messy though when divorces or death of a spouse occurs and then you can end up with two sets of families/two sets of children if you want to commit to somebody else. I think that when the desire to procreate is no longer there, then the inclination to commit to somebody else is a big risk. If a prenup scares somebody away then so be it. It is painful to watch a couple split up and each is grabbing away at the assets so as to get as much as possible. Apparently divorce lawyers have become counselors nowadays. There is nothing wrong with your thinking. If in doubt don't do it!

mikesride 04-14-2013 06:29 AM

Hopefully this is still on topic.
A friend of mine has gone thru a situation recently.
His mother had passed years ago, Dad gets remarried, they seem to be in real love , its great all around.
Dad passes, all of his estate goes to his new wife as he like many others set his will up to go to the wife. No big deal for anybody in the family until they find out it includes the family vacation home on the east coast....been in the family for five generations. Its gone in the step moms hands and already headed into disrepair by her children's families. His family really misses the use and family connection to the home....every year twice a year it was the place the whole family gathered to spend a week at the beach.

sc_rufctr 04-14-2013 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesride (Post 7385503)
Hopefully this is still on topic.
A friend of mine has gone thru a situation recently.
His mother had passed years ago, Dad gets remarried, they seem to be in real love , its great all around.
Dad passes, all of his estate goes to his new wife as he like many others set his will up to go to the wife. No big deal for anybody in the family until they find out it includes the family vacation home on the east coast....been in the family for five generations. Its gone in the step moms hands and already headed into disrepair by her children's families. His family really misses the use and family connection to the home....every year twice a year it was the place the whole family gathered to spend a week at the beach.

Tragic... The "Dad" should have made better decisions.

How I think about things... I'm the custodian of my money and property and as the custodian I have to ensure to pass it on to my kids.
Hopefully my kids will think of it the same way I do. I feel pretty confident that they will because of the example I've given them and how I raised them.

Meanwhile I'm planning for my retirement and that plan has no room for an expensive divorce.

I see older Aussie men with Asian wives everyday and as it happens most of them are happy and the marriage is stable.
I do like the old school values of these Asian women but it's not for me.

A friend of mine is considering an Asian wife and good for him. Apparently it's fairly straight forward. There are well set-up contact agencies in Thailand, The Philippines and Indonesia.

aigel 04-14-2013 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by recycled sixtie (Post 7384421)
(the woman does not need so much if any sex at that age).

How do you know this?

G

targa911S 04-15-2013 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Laneco (Post 7384640)
WHOA!!! So there is an 80% chance that I'll still be doing the mambo of delight at 90?

BAZINGA!!!! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat3.gif

angela

I love this woman...

GH85Carrera 04-15-2013 04:13 AM

One of my friends lust lost another step-father. My friends mother has burried 3 husbands.

recycled sixtie 04-15-2013 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by aigel (Post 7386744)
How do you know this?

G

From what I have seen there are not many women who admit to a high sex drive in the second half of their lives. Those that I have met, very few are still married.
I have not done a survey but you all out there can fill me in......:)

Jferr006 04-15-2013 05:22 AM

I can't imagine getting married again if I should end up single at some point.

I also can't imagine the "sex tap" drying up..blasphemy IMO! I'm constantly being reminded by hubs that women don't even hit their sexual peak until 30+ so... yeah I don't see a problem in that department :D.

recycled sixtie 04-15-2013 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jferr006 (Post 7386888)
I can't imagine getting married again if I should end up single at some point.

I also can't imagine the "sex tap" drying up..blasphemy IMO! I'm constantly being reminded by hubs that women don't even hit their sexual peak until 30+ so... yeah I don't see a problem in that department :D.

See my post about my grandfather having to resort to garage sex(ie. not with his wife!duh) under the allergies thread. Behavior of this nature of course is not unusual! My grandparents did not have a happy marriage.....in those days ie. early 1900's folks married for life as the woman had nowhere to go and many did not have jobs.

MRM 04-15-2013 06:05 AM

Anyone who thinks that women lose their sex drive after 50 or 60 either hasn't been asking women that question or they have been presenting that question badly.

You don't have to read Readbook to know that women's sex drive meets or exceeds men's into their 80s. Several studies to that effect have been in the news over the past few years.


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