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Out door Pizza ovens.....

Since I'm not working right this minute and looking for work I have thought about an outside pizza oven. What I REALLY want to build would have 3 ways of cooking.

I want to build a indirect smoker, pizza oven and a charcoal grill all in the same structure.

Anyone have any tips?

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Old 04-16-2013, 05:45 PM
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A buddy has an wood burning pizza oven and his complaints is a long list. Once it is up to temp it is hardly worth cooking only 3 pizzas, having good dough and all the ingredients takes a long shopping list and they do not store long. He orders pizzas and has them delivered.
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Honestly it a fad now and they really don't make much sense for most people. One of those structures that will make future owners of the home laugh and demolish while saying "that was built in the teens!"

But your idea specifically makes sense. If you're building a smoker and a grill why not toss a pizza option in there. Would be pretty neat and it could also have a fourth option of outdoor fireplace.
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I was in Tuscany last Summer. All the old places had wood fired ovens. I would love to have a fireplace that could cook pizza as well. Something that wouldn't be worthless outside of cooking pizza. I am all ears. What works?

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a friend was gonna do that - he had all these fancy bricks picked out, etc.; totaled it up and it was $4,000; then the recession hit him

his plan was a 650 oF oven - do you know what materials you'll need?
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A pelican is building one now. I'll let him post up pics. It is like a pro oven. He is currently choosing decorative tile. He is just about done. I've ordered plans.
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I'm planning on putting one in once I redo my patio area. A bud of mine has one gets double use out of it . Besides pizzas, he also bakes a ton of bread in it also.
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I just can't see the utility of one. Like mentioned ahead, it takes a while to bring up to temp and the work of making pizza from scratch doesn't appeal to me. Of course, I did build an outdoor bar with Viking grill and sideburner that I use all year around.

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I have a wood fired oven with a 42" dome. That's big enough for a turkey, some veggies and a loaf of bread. If you enjoy being outside and cooking you will enjoy a wood fired oven. I believe Pizza Oven | Brick Oven | Wood-Fired Pizza Ovens has all the info on building them and also sells kits for smaller ovens. The big green egg is also an excellent option if you aren't ready to go all in with a wood fired oven.

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I cook with coal or wood 2x a week so this is the next step. I haven't played with breads but yes, it's my plan. My kitchen is pretty nice but when I have 6 burner's going and 2 ovens going even in winter it get's hot in there. I really would like to figure a way to build a smoker/pizza oven Maybe a fire pit below the pizza oven with a flume up to the oven to get it to 200-250 and shut thee door for smoking. close the flume off for woodbaked pizza at 700*
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I would kill for one to bake bread. Nothing beats an oven baked bread. If I ever settle down in one place, this will go in before any outdoor entertaining / bar / bbq area.

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Smaller ovens do not take as long to heat, usually 2 hours or less. We have a big oven at our pizza restaurant, and that takes 5-6 hours to reach 650 degrees. While cooking, we maintain a flame in the back which helps maintain the temperature, and browns the top of the pizza. We can cook two at a time, and usually cook 150-200 thin crust pizzas during the four hours we're open each weekend night. No romantic Tucsany image comes to mind here~!
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I have a wood fired oven with a 42" dome. That's big enough for a turkey, some veggies and a loaf of bread. If you enjoy being outside and cooking you will enjoy a wood fired oven. I believe Pizza Oven | Brick Oven | Wood-Fired Pizza Ovens has all the info on building them and also sells kits for smaller ovens. The big green egg is also an excellent option if you aren't ready to go all in with a wood fired oven.


I am following there tutorial currently and am now ready to start on the dome. I already have a electric pizza oven built into my outdoor island but a wood burner serves so many other uses if built to the right size and specifications.
Mine is being built on top of a brick platform with a wood burning fireplace insert below. Wont be able to use both at the same time easily but I wanted to make use of all available space
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Wood Oven

I'm currently building an outdoor oven, and I'm really really tired and sore, so my clarity might be skewed here.

An outdoor oven relies on thermal mass. Lots of it if you plan on doing roasts, turkey, bread, etc. An oven will fire in about 75 minutes, and you can cook in it for many hours. I've relied on 3 websites for my info: Traditional Oven, Ozark Dreams Brick Oven, and to a lesser extent Forno Bravo. For 20 bucks Rado Hand (Traditional Oven) will send you a DVD with hundreds of building photos and lots of information.

You have to like to cook a lot to justify an oven. If you just want it for pizzas, I don't think it's worth your time. And if it doesn't work right, it's cause you skimped on the insulation,,,top, bottom, AND sides!

As far as being a fad,,hogwash. These ovens have been around for many decades and are still holding up to constant use. I have so much concrete and steel in mine I'd almost love to come back some day with a 30 pack and watch someone try and demolish it!!

With a few modifications, this is what I'm building,



The more you learn about ovens, you can tell by this pic that it is lacking in thermal mass. I would suggest lots of reading and studying before you break ground.

I've taken lots of pics, so if ur building one and get stumped, PM me and I can send a pic of how I blundered through a specific problem.

Oh yean,,,and if ur old like me, make sure you've stocked up on Aleve and Ben Gay

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Oh yean,,,and if ur old like me, make sure you've stocked up on beer, vicoden and Swedish massage girls


I like that one and yes about thermal mass. my thoughts are if I heat it for pizza I better have some bread or a roast to go in as well.

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