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Jim Richards 05-09-2013 04:04 AM
Ctrl alt del wtf?
 
We're thirteen years into the 21st Century and still stuck with CTRL ALT DEL. C'mon Microsft, when are you gonna loose this anachronism? :p :p :p

jyl 05-09-2013 04:05 AM
I mean, they did away with the Start icon, nothing is sacred.

Porsche-O-Phile 05-09-2013 04:07 AM
I think it was (and maybe still is) required by DoD for security.

Jim Richards 05-09-2013 04:10 AM
Like that's really working out for them. ;)

Z-man 05-09-2013 05:21 AM
Techically, it was started by IBM. Wiki link: Control-Alt-Delete - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hey - it's better than Control-Flower-Power for Macs! :D

Funny, there's no equivalent with Mainframe or AIX systems...
-Z

VaSteve 05-09-2013 05:38 AM
Its iconic...imagine if a 911 key went on the right side of the column!

id10t 05-09-2013 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Z-man (Post 7431812)
Techically, it was started by IBM. Wiki link: Control-Alt-Delete - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hey - it's better than Control-Flower-Power for Macs! :D

Funny, there's no equivalent with Mainframe or AIX systems...
-Z
Not sure about ZOS or ZVM, but with AIX (and other unices, including Linux) you can control what happens with the 3 finger salute...

Z-man 05-09-2013 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by id10t (Post 7431875)
Not sure about ZOS or ZVM, but with AIX (and other unices, including Linux) you can control what happens with the 3 finger salute...
On Z/OS, $P will drain all initiators, $Z will halt all initiators and put a hold on all associated resources. But those are just the first couple of steps to the whole IPL process. :D

-Z

Shuie 05-09-2013 06:22 AM
When I first joined IBM I really chuckled after looking at my company issued laptop and realizing that they had removed the windows button from the keyboard.

cairns 05-09-2013 07:09 AM
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We're thirteen years into the 21st Century and still stuck with CTRL ALT DEL. C'mon Microsft, when are you gonna loose this anachronism?
I could not agree more. I have an apple at home and put up with windows at work. Leagues apart. The DOS crutch is going to live forever I think.

wdfifteen 05-09-2013 07:11 AM
LOL! Every computer needs a wtf key. That's one standard everyone should be able to agree on.

willtel 05-09-2013 07:20 AM
It is for security when a computer is connected to a network. It is easier to turn off than complain about it.

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A secure attention key (SAK) is a special key or key combination to be pressed on a computer keyboard before a login screen must be trusted by a user. The operating system kernel, which interacts directly with the hardware, is able to detect whether the secure attention key has been pressed. When this event is detected, the kernel starts the trusted login processing.

The secure attention key is designed to make login spoofing impossible, as the kernel will suspend any program, including those masquerading as the computer's login process, before starting a trustable login operation.

GH85Carrera 05-09-2013 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by willtel (Post 7432005)
It is for security when a computer is connected to a network. It is easier to turn off than complain about it.
That makes total sense. No software spoof can replicate the physical pressing of three keys.

RWebb 05-09-2013 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 7431721)
I mean, they did away with the Start icon, nothing is sacred.
it will be coming back -- thereby confirming cyclic theories of history

Head416 05-09-2013 12:22 PM
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<div style="font-style:italic">It is for security when a computer is connected to a network. It is easier to turn off than complain about it.</div>
</div>That makes total sense. No software spoof can replicate the physical pressing of three keys.
Except VMware, Virtual PC, etc.

masraum 05-09-2013 12:50 PM
What's the problem? Why does it need to change? It's a keyboard shortcut for things that you can do from within Windows most of the time.

It is a combination of keys that are unlikely to be pressed accidentally.

What would you prefer/recommend to replace it?

James Brown 05-09-2013 03:39 PM
how about one of these
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368142787.jpg

masraum 05-09-2013 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by James Brown (Post 7433097)
how about one of these
Ctrl-Alt-Del isn't normally used to power a machine off, reboot or reset. At least, I haven't used it for that since Win 95 or Win 98.

All of my machines have one of those buttons, and it does something a lot different from Ctrl-Alt-Del.

Maybe what you guys are looking for is the

http://tomwet.de/out/pictures/master.../1/AnyKey3.jpg


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