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stomachmonkey 05-17-2013 02:05 PM

Sure would be nice if problems like this could be solved by a 3rd party simply telling B and/or C to "stop being dicks or I'm gonna drunk monkey slap you upside the head".

Good luck to all involved.

RWebb 05-17-2013 02:14 PM

good - you can get info from the city

Open Public Records Act

- see if you can search up a citizens guide to the above

drcoastline 05-17-2013 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ossiblue (Post 7446780)
A quick look into New Jersey easement laws doesn't look good for owner of property C if there is no written, recorded easement known as an Express Easement. From the OP, it doesn't sound like this applies.

A Prescriptive Easement would only apply if the driveway was used by C for over 20 years without the permission of owner B--current or former. From the post, that does not appear to work as the driveway and garages were being shared.

Quasi-easement by Implication would apply only if property B and C had shared the driveway and property B and C had been owned by the same owner or both B and C had partial ownerhsip. This isn't the case as B and C had been deeded to different individuals prior to the building/use of the driveway.

That leaves Easement by Necessity. However, this requires that property C was separated from B, and is only accessible by an easement across B, meaning C is completely landlocked by B. This does not appear to be the case either.

My understanding is these were always three separate properties with three separate owners. The three properties were developed under three separate owners. The creation of the driveway was, apparently, done by mutual agreement between two separate owners and without an express easement. That being he case, under NJ law, owner C has no easement claim to the driveway.

I'm not a lawyer so the above is worth as much as my law degree. Talk to a NJ real estate lawyer as there may be some nuance that may help out owner C.

On the deeds no easements are recorde. Info today revealed there may be separate easement recordings so the title company is researching both properties.

Attached is a similar driveway garage situation as described. This is not the property in question. Just a similar driveway/ garage.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368829140.jpg

RWebb 05-17-2013 02:21 PM

wow - what kind of setback regs. do you guys have?

time to buy a Ducati!

drcoastline 05-17-2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 7447518)
wow - what kind of setback regs. do you guys have?

time to buy a Ducati!

Public records were ordered today by attorney.

Remember these properties go back to the 1930-1940. Very different from today. The fact is the property in question is even tighter than the pic. Building B in my example actually hung over the driveway on the second floor by 2 feet. I'll see if I can scan in a photo and post.

Current set backs are 5' on sides 15' front yard 20' rear. Island properties are a premium now you need a minimum 5000 sq.ft. to build a single.


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