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masraum 06-10-2013 01:33 PM

Simple woodworking question
 
I suspect I know the answer, but I want to check.

If you had 2 1"x12" pine boards glued together to give you a thicker board, and then you were going to glue another 2"x1" board to the long edge of the boards.

If the 2 boards weren't perfectly straight before gluing so that after gluing, the long edge is not quite perfect, what would you do to the edge to get the edge to be flat as if it was a single 1.5" thick board, sand, hand plane, something else?

And by hand planer, I meant the old fashioned kind, but I now see that there are power units available. I recently discovered that there's a Harbor Freight store about 3 miles from the house. I've been looking for an excuse to go. A small hand-held power planer for $50 sounds like it might be a decent option.

jwhcars 06-10-2013 01:40 PM

I would run it thru a jointer. You could also use a table saw.

sammyg2 06-10-2013 01:40 PM

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No wait it's 288!

gatotom 06-10-2013 01:42 PM

run it over a jointer a few times, the edge will be flat as a pancake. If you want to thin the board down some, use a planer.

Zeke 06-10-2013 01:51 PM

The table saw will leave marks that will have to be sanded out whereas the jointer should leave you a nice finish with little sanding. Beware of cheap planers, they leave chatter marks and are difficult to adjust to make a straight edge from a banana.

Use what you have at your disposal. For instance, I would readily invest in a top quality saw blade for a decent table saw before I would buy a cheap planer.

masraum 06-10-2013 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 7491223)
2.

No wait it's 288!

Thanks for the laugh!

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatotom (Post 7491228)
run it over a jointer a few times, the edge will be flat as a pancake. If you want to thin the board down some, use a planer.

Wish I had a jointer.

I was originally talking about something like...

http://ww.toncan.com/img/woodwork/hand-planer.jpg

I assume when you talk about jointer and planer, you're talking about

http://wheelinhuntms.com/wp-content/...-Functions.jpg
http://www.wisegeek.org/images/how-i...oodworking.jpg

I think this kind of planer looks like a good option at a lower price point
http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/pro...6a17cf_400.jpg

Herr Oberst (hope I got the spelling right), thanks for your response too, even though it has disappeared now.

masraum 06-10-2013 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 7491245)
The table saw will leave marks that will have to be sanded out whereas the jointer should leave you a nice finish with little sanding. Beware of cheap planers, they leave chatter marks and are difficult to adjust to make a straight edge from a banana.

Use what you have at your disposal. For instance, I would readily invest in a top quality saw blade for a decent table saw before I would buy a cheap planer.

Thanks Zeke/Milt. I've got a very inexpensive contractor's table saw with a very moderate fence. I don't think I could do a good job due to my lack of skill and the tool's lack of precision. I do have decent blades for it, I have learned that much from you guys here over the years. Any time I buy a cutting tool, I always buy better quality blades to go with it.

masraum 06-10-2013 01:56 PM

I've been using a quick square clamped to the board and a circular saw to barely shave the ends.

Zeke 06-10-2013 02:07 PM

Here's a trick: when you set your fence, bump the far end over a tiny amount so that when the board is fed through, only the front part of the blade cuts and the back part is just missing the work. You won't get those back swirls on the face of the cut and no burn marks either.
Easy to sand out.

masraum 06-10-2013 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwhcars (Post 7491221)
I would run it thru a jointer. You could also use a table saw.

Thanks, didn't see your response the first time through.

masraum 06-10-2013 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 7491285)
Here's a trick: when you set your fence, bump the far end over a tiny amount so that when the board is fed through, only the front part of the blade cuts and the back part is just missing the work. You won't get those back swirls on the face of the cut and no burn marks either.
Easy to sand out.

Thanks, is there a trick to feeding 8' of board through straight? That's where I usually have the most trouble is on a long cut.

Red88Carrera 06-10-2013 02:34 PM

How far off is it? How much material do you need to remove?

gatotom 06-10-2013 02:35 PM

Zeke, your giving away the farm, telling all the little secrets of the trade.

Wise words, also, never buy cheap equipment, never worth it in the end. There are plenty available used equipment around pre China days when equipment was good.

About 10 yrs ago I picked up a old Rockwell cabinet table saw was missing the square, bfd, for 300 bucks. My jointer is also a Rockwell, both are about 60's vintage. Craig's list has good stuff all the time.

When working in the field had a nice old delta table saw, 8" blade, cuts like a Hamilton watch keeps time, gave it to my daughter. Still have my grandpa's Hamilton pocket watch vintage 1890's, still keeps time like a good watch, just wind it everyday.

gatotom 06-10-2013 02:39 PM

easy way to feed 8-10- 12-14' boards thru a table saw is have a table catching the board as it goes thru, better than having another person on the other end, you are controlling the feed. Same way with plywood. Wide table top with extensions and large table is the ticket for happy cutting and a good straight edge guide like a bessimer.

RWebb 06-10-2013 02:45 PM

plasma cutter

masraum 06-10-2013 03:28 PM

How much material do you need to remove?[/QUOTE]

Not much, in spots maybe as much as 1/16" or 3/32, but usually much less

I figure the more true I get the edge the better the facing will look, and I'll have to use less filler

LWJ 06-10-2013 03:48 PM

Listen to Milt. Table saw. Might not even need to buy a blade.

Red88Carrera 06-10-2013 03:53 PM

I agree... table saw. Cant the fence.

Zeke 06-10-2013 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 7491304)
Thanks, is there a trick to feeding 8' of board through straight? That's where I usually have the most trouble is on a long cut.

As mentioned, an outfeed table or roller. You need to be smooth feeding the work through the saw pressing it against the fence. A lot of production work is done by auto feeders.

Take a dry run with the saw turned off to get your footing and hand movements worked out.

Reg 06-10-2013 04:39 PM

The hand plane is like a mini jointer. You just have to take more time and use your eyes more.

Why not just buy a 2 x 12 plus a 2 x 2 and rip the 2 x 12 into three (reversing the grains) and laminate them all together, and cut down to size? It's what we'd do.


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