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motion 07-08-2013 03:01 PM

Another window question
 
I'm considering having a carpenter add 2 Milguard vinyl windows to the backside of my garage. The windows would match the others in my shack. Is this fairly straightforward? Any caveats?

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Zeke 07-08-2013 03:09 PM

It's Milgard w/o out a u because the company was started by Gary Milgard. Damn fine windows with the best customer service. I mentioned composite windows in the other thread. Milgard makes really nice ones and an option is to have wood veneer on the inside. Beautiful windows especially on interiors with lots of wood.

Again, pricey.

motion 07-08-2013 03:12 PM

Thanks, Zeke. Yeah they are really pricey. Simple matter of cutting into the interior/exterior, doing some framing, insert window, trim?

Zeke 07-08-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by motion (Post 7537604)
Thanks, Zeke. Yeah they are really pricey. Simple matter of cutting into the interior/exterior, doing some framing, insert window, trim?

Pretty much. You don't have a big load there in the summer, but you should plan a big enough header for the snow load. We use an inch in height for every foot in width, single story, pretty much any roof load. Don't know a thing about snow.

You'll want to pay attention to flashing as retrofitting flashing is tricky, but it's done all the time. After that, any ol' trim that matches the existing and no one will know.

So, in short, I would not use a block frame which is the easy way to stick a window in a new hole. But, I wouldn't remove a bunch of siding to accommodate the full flange installation. Kinda of an in between situation. I'm sure your carpenter has it covered.

Jandrews 07-08-2013 06:20 PM

We have composite Milgard's throughout our whole house... 35 windows in total. Our are casement. We love the windows, but at least 10 of them have had the internal seals fail, or the e-coating flake off, or both. But, as Milt says, their customer service is excellent (located in Denver, I think). These are lifetime warranty windows, so all you do is call them, tell them which window failed, and they send an installer out with a brand new replacement. Again, we have had at least 10 fail in 6 years. That seems like a very high failure rate to me, but they sure do stand behind them, no questions asked.

JA

Zeke 07-08-2013 06:37 PM

That is a high failure rate. But the one thing about a lifetime guaranty is that it can't be prorated.

john70t 07-08-2013 06:48 PM

I don't know about the windows, but the lack of stain makes me 'shutter' a bit.
Powerwash, sand, and stain with Cabots austrailian oil and wrap the fascia.

Also, if those are not sub-15ft ornamental trees, the roots will eventually grow into the foundation. They are too close.

Nice idea. The windows would look perfect. There are unbreakable ones on the market.

motion 07-09-2013 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 7537709)
Pretty much. You don't have a big load there in the summer, but you should plan a big enough header for the snow load. We use an inch in height for every foot in width, single story, pretty much any roof load. Don't know a thing about snow.

You'll want to pay attention to flashing as retrofitting flashing is tricky, but it's done all the time. After that, any ol' trim that matches the existing and no one will know.

So, in short, I would not use a block frame which is the easy way to stick a window in a new hole. But, I wouldn't remove a bunch of siding to accommodate the full flange installation. Kinda of an in between situation. I'm sure your carpenter has it covered.

Excellent.... thanks!

motion 07-09-2013 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 7538140)
I don't know about the windows, but the lack of stain makes me 'shutter' a bit.
Powerwash, sand, and stain with Cabots austrailian oil and wrap the fascia.

Also, if those are not sub-15ft ornamental trees, the roots will eventually grow into the foundation. They are too close.

Nice idea. The windows would look perfect. There are unbreakable ones on the market.

Yep, stain guys will be here in a week. Combination of hail stripping and improper roof drip rail.

Not worried about the aspen trees. There's plenty of water away from the foundation for them to grow towards.

RWebb 07-09-2013 10:57 AM

Fine Homebuilding has an article on how to do a really good seal for windows. forgot the issue but they have a web site

think about what else you will ever want there while it is opened up (elec. outlet)

don't forget the cripple studs


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