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kach22i 07-09-2013 04:00 PM

Replace your car battery with capacitors!
 
Replace your car battery with capacitors!
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Originally Posted by redneck (Post 379752)
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Replace your car battery with capacitors!




So, would you like to shed 25-30 lbs. of dead weight from your car...???


If so, check this out.



DIY 12V BoostPack.


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Think you need large capacitors to do the job ?


Think again...


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Author's website.

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I'm going to do this... :D


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Light weight Porsche project next?

Who's first?

red-beard 07-09-2013 04:55 PM

I have heard about some people doing this. One place is supposed to be big rigs operating in cold country.

The interesting thing to me is looking into the use of LiFePo4 as a replacement for lead acid batteries. We're looking into LiFePo4 for solar applications. They have better life than SLA, weigh less. They are a lot less toxic than the wet Nickel Cadmium batteries my customer prefers. And the power density allows smaller enclosures, which are quite expensive.

Flieger 07-09-2013 05:13 PM

I didn't watch the videos, but the disadvantage to capacitors is that their voltage drops off continuously- steeply at first and levelling off near depletion, exponential decay or whatever you want to call it. Batteries are much better about maintaining a relatively constant voltage for a good portion of their charge. Automotive electrical systems need very specific voltage- more crucial on new cars. So you need some more complex power electronics to manage the voltage output from the caps. They aren't a drop-in replacement.

Scott R 07-09-2013 05:43 PM

Bad idea. Most batteries are rated to provide some amount of amp/hours over a 30 day period of sitting to keep clocks and computers requiring constant energy alive. This is going to die after a few days with the low amp hours on a cap. Forgot, brake lights and hazards need to run with the car off as well.

The person in the video would do better to shave 25 pounds of him or the car instead.

motion 07-09-2013 06:24 PM

I've done this with most of my 2-strokes.

John Rogers 07-09-2013 06:51 PM

My 1960 Harley had a magneto (John Deer tractor) for ignition and a lick start and a big ass'd capacitor in place of the battery. It had a generator but it was really small. The only issue was no lights unless the engine was running.

kach22i 07-10-2013 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john rogers (Post 7540052)
My 1960 Harley had a magneto (John Deer tractor) for ignition and a lick start and a big ass'd capacitor in place of the battery. It had a generator but it was really small. The only issue was no lights unless the engine was running.

I'm guessing we can do this with our older Porsche's, but a seven computer Boxster is out of the question.

Nathans_Dad 07-10-2013 11:17 AM

Yeah but how do you get the 1.21 gigawatts of power needed?

Oh wait, that's a FLUX capacitor.

spuggy 07-10-2013 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john rogers (Post 7540052)
My 1960 Harley had a magneto (John Deer tractor) for ignition and a lick start and a big ass'd capacitor in place of the battery. It had a generator but it was really small. The only issue was no lights unless the engine was running.

Heh. I used to run my '64 XLH without a battery entirely. But the lights got really dim at idle and flickered pretty bad at low RPM. So I added a capacitor. Which worked great until the polarity on the generator reversed itself (which apparently they will do every now and again without a battery to "tell" the regulator what the correct polarity is). Which would make short work of the cap...

Zeke 07-10-2013 05:19 PM

You probably need a battery in a 911 except for the carb models. The MFI, CIS and Motronic need the juice. How about a combination?

kach22i 07-11-2013 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 7541708)
You probably need a battery in a 911 except for the carb models. The MFI, CIS and Motronic need the juice. How about a combination?

The last video called "Mini BoostPack 12V Capacitor Car Battery Hybrid" looks to be most promising.

I've read a few posts at the author's website. People are taking this very seriously.

12V BoostPack

Having had to replace computers (CDI boxes) in aging vehicles before which are often equal to the value of the car, I'm very shy about this area of experiments myself.


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