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widgeon13 08-20-2013 07:10 AM

What's wrong with kids today?
 
Australian college baseball player shot and killed by 'bored' Oklahoma teens | World news | theguardian.com

sc_rufctr 08-20-2013 07:13 AM

Tragic event. The whole thing was just wrong.

Tervuren 08-20-2013 07:14 AM

Sad.

Nothing new btw, stuff like this has been going on for thousands of years. There may be brief breaks in history where a localized people keep it together, but thats an exception not the rule.

Ultimately, it comes down to a rejection of right and wrong. If you do not like being wrong, you can reason yourself out of the existence of right or wrong - up until the point that the wrong of some one else wrong affects you.

Quote:

The father of the 15-year-old accused of being in the car admitted his son had been in some previous "kid stuff" trouble with the law, but described him as a good boy who also was not part of a gang.
Btw, lots of posters here also said the same about "TM" and "kid stuff", just youth, etc.

widgeon13 08-20-2013 07:18 AM

And here is the rest of the story..............

Three teens accused of murdering baseball player Chris Lane identified - NYPOST.com

Where is the outrage from Jesse and Al, will it come?

GH85Carrera 08-20-2013 07:23 AM

They shot him just to felel what it is like to murder someone. They shot him in the back. Hopefully they will never see the streets again. Since they are juveniles they will likely get away with murder. :(

They should all be charged with a hate crime as well as a Muder in the first degree.

widgeon13 08-20-2013 07:40 AM

Yes, but that won't happen because they are most likely disadvantaged youths. You know been beaten down all their lives, probably only one parent if that.

BeyGon 08-20-2013 07:42 AM

the mom said they were wanna be gangstas, sounds familiar.
where did they get the gun, was it daddys, left out, not locked up, go after the daddy too.

widgeon13 08-20-2013 07:47 AM

Well, they ain't wannabees any more.

Crowbob 08-20-2013 07:51 AM

Before I go further, I wil acknowledge many people will find what I say obvious. To others it may not be so apparent. Also, I am in no way expressing sympathy for these boys.

They were not whole humans. What they lacked within themselves they found in each other. Apparently life holds no value to them probably due to the worthlessness they felt about their own. Because love is foreign to them, human life has no more sanctity to it than a mosquito has to us.

Some call this evil.

livi 08-20-2013 07:59 AM

Varmint. Eradication recommended.

widgeon13 08-20-2013 07:59 AM

Crowbob, Without being overly critical of your comments and analysis from where did you glean this in depth knowledge of their background.

Granted, their backgrounds are most likely warped, (tremendously) but how can a human being have no regard for another person and just randomly kill them for fun or because they are bored.

These three boys are domestic terrorists. They have the same attitude as radical Islamists, they just want to kill for the sake of killing. Actually, it is worse than that, these three boys have no rational reason for doing what they did. No logic whatsoever.

gacook 08-20-2013 08:05 AM

To answer the question posted by the OP...parents.

onewhippedpuppy 08-20-2013 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 7611990)
And here is the rest of the story..............

Three teens accused of murdering baseball player Chris Lane identified - NYPOST.com

Where is the outrage from Jesse and Al, will it come?

Nope, and that's exactly the problem.

Zeke 08-20-2013 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 7612058)
Before I go further, I wil acknowledge many people will find what I say obvious. To others it may not be so apparent. Also, I am in no way expressing sympathy for these boys.

They were not whole humans. What they lacked within themselves they found in each other. Apparently life holds no value to them probably due to the worthlessness they felt about their own. Because love is foreign to them, human life has no more sanctity to it than a mosquito has to us.

Some call this evil.

Why didn't they just shoot each other then? You know, one through the heart and they can just lie there and watch each other die.

That's how their executions should be, simultaneously with them able to see a monitor of their buddy as he squirms to death.

Crowbob 08-20-2013 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 7612077)
Crowbob, Without being overly critical of your comments and analysis from where did you glean this in depth knowledge of their background.

Granted, their backgrounds are most likely warped, (tremendously) but how can a human being have no regard for another person and just randomly kill them for fun or because they are bored.

These three boys are domestic terrorists. They have the same attitude as radical Islamists, they just want to kill for the sake of killing. Actually, it is worse than that, these three boys have no rational reason for doing what they did. No logic whatsoever.

Appreciate the questions. I have no knowledge of their backgrounds, aside from having just learned they were black-which in the context of mental illness-is not relevant to me. There is no rational explanation for their behavior, as you say, so a mental anomoly must be at play. The sheer selfish brutality of their activity can not have emerged within anyone who has experienced genuine love. Even a fleeting love, IMO, would have been sufficient to instill at least some humanity into these...organisms.

As far as calling them terrorists or their acts terrorism gives them too much credit. These, these pitiable beings have no ideology, no intellectual paradigm, no awareness of anything other than their own miserable and now wasted selves.

Rot 911 08-20-2013 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 7611990)
And here is the rest of the story..............

Three teens accused of murdering baseball player Chris Lane identified - NYPOST.com

Where is the outrage from Jesse and Al, will it come?

More importantly, where is the outrage from white leaders? Why aren't whites marching? Oh wait, sorry, I forgot. If whites did that they would be labeled as racists.

Crowbob 08-20-2013 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 7612181)
Why didn't they just shoot each other then? You know, one through the heart and they can just lie there and watch each other die.

That's how their executions should be, simultaneously with them able to see a monitor of their buddy as he squirms to death.

Most likely because that would have eliminated the only thing they thought they had: an affirmation of the worth of their own existences.

Execution in this instance seems to me to be masquerading as a punishment. There is no punishment equal to their depths of evil. Execution would be born of our anger-revenge. Nor is there any chance of rehabilitation because these inferiors will experience the rest of their lives, however long, as a series of proofs of the non-existence of genuine love.

Execution is appropriate not because of vengeance or punishment, but because it rids us and our world of at least a tiny bit of evil. Further, the cost of maintaining these creatures should not be born by a society so wounded by them or a society they so obviously were never a part of.

GH85Carrera 08-20-2013 09:51 AM

They said they were bored.

So put them on a remote island with some hungry wild boar pigs. They will not be bored for the rest of their very short lives. Turn them into pig poop. As fertlizer they will finally be of use to the planet.

Baz 08-20-2013 10:04 AM

Family, friends on 2 continents mourn random killing of Australian baseball player
 
Welcome to America......thug nation......:mad:


Family, friends on 2 continents mourn random killing of Australian baseball player - The Washington Post

Quote:

DUNCAN, Okla. — It is a chillingly simple motive: Police say three bored teens killed an Australian collegiate baseball player attending school in the U.S. for “the fun of it.”

As authorities prepared to charge the teens Tuesday with first-degree murder, family and friends on two continents mourned 22-year-old Christopher Lane, who was being remembered as a wonderful young man whose life ended too soon. His girlfriend tearfully laid a cross at a streetside memorial in Oklahoma, while half a world away, his team in Australia placed flowers at home plate.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/ima...ying-018be.jpg

Baz 08-20-2013 10:06 AM

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A 17-year-old in the group has given a detailed confession to police, and charges were expected Tuesday afternoon.

“They saw Christopher go by, and one of them said: ‘There’s our target,’” Ford said. “The boy who has talked to us said, ‘We were bored and didn’t have anything to do, so we decided to kill somebody.’”
Good thing there was no neighborhood watch program or one of the youngsters who shot this man may have been killed instead.


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