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mikesride 08-27-2013 06:54 PM

outboard motor question
 
Posting some pics of the bottom fin on my outboard. I had an incident at the boat launch on the weekend (with the trailer winch.....replaced it already). Boat rolled off the trailer early and hit this fin on the concrete ramp. It looks twisted to me, but I don't know if that is how they are manufactured or if I bent mine. If it is bent is there a safe way to straighten it out? Its cast aluminum, I don't want it to snap off! I am an outboard rookie so please excuse my ignorance, Thanks folks!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1377657960.jpg

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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1377658197.jpg

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ps. The bearing housing doesn't seem to be compromised everything turns nicely without noise and the boat doesn't seem to pull to one side or anything? Maybe (hopefully) I am worried about nothing.

VINMAN 08-27-2013 07:00 PM

The skeg bent like that will have an effect on the steering.

LWJ 08-27-2013 07:34 PM

I can't imagine you can straighten it. Since it is toast however, you might as well try. What if you heat the bejezus out of it with a Mapp gas torch or similar and straighten it? It will crack and be even worse but at least you will have tried.

Best of luck.

Larry

Keith Perry 08-27-2013 07:43 PM

Before you do anything, put the boat back in the water and go for a ride.

crownarch 08-27-2013 07:57 PM

Definitely launch the boat and run it wide open and see how it has affected the steering. It can be corrected with heat but, you would have to pull the lower unit, drain the oil, remove the gears and water pump impeller. The heat will ruin the seals in the lower unit so, they would need to be replaced. Additionally, you would need to find a good metal fabrication or weld shop that has experience with working with aluminum castings. If the boat steering/handling is not affected too much I would then just leave it as is.

LakeCleElum 08-27-2013 08:07 PM

Boat will just go in circles while you drink beer....Heating is tricky, would ask a welding shop to do that for you.......

Bill Douglas 08-27-2013 09:37 PM

Hit a rock going left, sorry I mean hit a rock going right.

enzo1 08-27-2013 09:46 PM

try to find a "prop Shop" that specializes in welding aluminum. You're not the 1st one to damage an outdrive:)

Cajundaddy 08-27-2013 09:49 PM

Try it first to see how much it affects straight line running. Maybe you can compensate with the prop trim tab. I probably would not attempt to straighten it.

widgeon13 08-28-2013 02:31 AM

Leave it and drive the freakin boat. It has zero effect that you will notice. It is only there to afford some additional protection to the prop.

KFC911 08-28-2013 03:37 AM

I'd just leave it alone also. On a high speed bass boat or something going 60-70 mph, you might notice an effect, but I doubt you will. Good luck!

berettafan 08-28-2013 04:53 AM

I would NOT heat it in an effort to bend it. There are seals and fluids in there you don't want getting super hot and expanding or melting.

PS- keep the safety chain on until the transom is IN the water especially if you have a roller trailer.

KFC911 08-28-2013 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 7625585)
...PS- keep the safety chain on until the transom is IN the water especially if you have a roller trailer.

I always raise my bass boat motor all the way up when putting in/taking out...ramp angles vary and I've never taken that chance. Since I also launch solo many times, I'll give myself several feet of slack in the winch strap so it can "float" off the trailer a bit, but not get away. Keeping it strapped to the winch tightly doesn't work to well on my boat.

berettafan 08-28-2013 05:09 AM

I launch solo as well and float the boat off the trailer. Occasionally on a very low tide i'll have to do some pushing (bunk trailer). But on a roller trailer no way i'd let the safety chain off until a winch failure would result in nothing worse than the boat in the water floating.

Certainly a very short ramp and low tide (or water level if you're in fresh) could make a bigger challenge of this.

btw OP you might want to check the lower unit oil for water intrusion. it's an easy job to replace the oil and a good bit cheaper than replacing a lower unit if seals fail.

Rot 911 08-28-2013 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 7625597)
I always raise my bass boat motor all the way up when putting in/taking out...ramp angles vary and I've never taken that chance. Since I also launch solo many times, I'll give myself several feet of slack in the winch strap so it can "float" off the trailer a bit, but not get away. Keeping it strapped to the winch tightly doesn't work to well on my boat.

Good advice. As to the skeg, leave it alone. I doubt you will notice any effect on the steering. Like was pointed out earlier, its purpose is to protect the prop.

tharbert 08-28-2013 05:17 AM

Go fishing. Leave it.

Radioactive 08-28-2013 06:51 AM

What brand of outboard, in a single outboard configuration most outboards have a torque tab to compensate for RH prop torque, some have it built into the skeg.

Its cast aluminum, attempting to fix it will probably not have good results.
(heat will ruin the seals if assembled, heat disassembled distort case won't seal)

Leave it alone.

fingpilot 08-28-2013 08:14 AM

The twist was probably built in to compensate for P-factor.

mikesride 08-28-2013 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 7625585)

PS- keep the safety chain on until the transom is IN the water especially if you have a roller trailer.

THAT is exactly what happened......I left my trust in the ratcheting mechanism on the winch.....Felt like a total idiot. That's the only damage done, those roller trailers are pretty slick I must say.
Thanks for all the advice guys, I had the motor down because the launch was very busy and I didn't want to be the guy holding anybody up...... Next time, safety cable on, engine trimmed all the way UP!!!
We still fished that day but only after I pulled it back out to check for hull damage ......so in my rush to be quick I actually caused more commotion at the launch. Its only an 85hp Suzuki, and it seemed to track straight and steer fine, I had adjusted the small torque tab as someone called it earlier to help compensate the weight difference between driver and passenger so I think I have a good grasp of that part anyways!!!
Thanks again!

berettafan 08-28-2013 03:52 PM

Don't be embarassed. It happens. Just have your transom straps off and the boat loaded before you back up to the ramp and nobody will complain.

KFC911 08-28-2013 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 7626759)
Don't be embarassed. It happens. Just have your transom straps off and the boat loaded before you back up to the ramp and nobody will complain.

Indeed...save the embarrassment for when you leave the plug out. Many years ago, a friend with a new center console and it happened with a bunch of us guys along....we've never laughed so damn hard in our lives. Good buddies can be BRUTAL to each other :D

enzo1 08-28-2013 06:11 PM

Here's my buddy's day at the lake:)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1377742280.jpg

KFC911 08-28-2013 06:20 PM

Now THATS how you hold everyone up! Can't help but notice that tower thingy on the island in the background....what is it?

enzo1 08-28-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 7627080)
Now THATS how you hold everyone up! Can't help but notice that tower thingy on the island in the background....what is it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Murray_(Oklahoma)

KFC911 08-29-2013 01:58 AM

Cool...thanks!

mattdavis11 08-29-2013 05:03 AM

Lake murray is nice. Clear water, great people.

mikesride 08-29-2013 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enzo1 (Post 7627055)
Here's my buddy's day at the lake:)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1377742280.jpg

OH NO!!! That is really somebody you know? How does one get so far past the point of no return???

KFC911 08-29-2013 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesride (Post 7627592)
OH NO!!! That is really somebody you know? How does one get so far past the point of no return???

By letting your wife or SO back down the ramp :p

Serious answer...probably ready to pull back out and forgot to shift out of reverse would be my guess.

Slider79SC 08-29-2013 06:17 AM

If it does seem to affect your steering to the point you don't like it you can check out Overton's or a prop shop, they have slip over replacements and gaurds.

lower skeg | Overton’s

I ran for years without most of my lower skeg (broken off and twisted a bit) on a 200hp Merc and never noticed the difference.


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