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Rick Lee 10-05-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 7689778)
As long as people are talking about her the money will just roll in.

How? People were talking about Octomom just as much and she was on welfare and lost her house. I'm really curious about Miley's income streams. I've never heard a song of hers since she was Hannah Montana. Does she sell albums? There's not a lot of money in album sales anymore, since people tend to just download a few songs from each instead of having to buy the whole thing. Touring and merchandising are where it's at now. But she probably has a ginormous entourage and payroll. I've never seen anyone wear one of her shirts. And I just can't picture a lot of parents forking over hundreds to buy concert tix for their kids. As Hannah Montana I can easily see all that. But in her current incarnation, I doubt she's making much $$ other than through investments of previous earnings.

sc_rufctr 10-05-2013 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 7690434)
How? People were talking about Octomom just as much and she was on welfare and lost her house. I'm really curious about Miley's income streams. I've never heard a song of hers since she was Hannah Montana. Does she sell albums? There's not a lot of money in album sales anymore, since people tend to just download a few songs from each instead of having to buy the whole thing. Touring and merchandising are where it's at now. But she probably has a ginormous entourage and payroll. I've never seen anyone wear one of her shirts. And I just can't picture a lot of parents forking over hundreds to buy concert tix for their kids. As Hannah Montana I can easily see all that. But in her current incarnation, I doubt she's making much $$ other than through investments of previous earnings.

She worth about $150,000,000...

More here from Forbes about her recent income stream.

Miley Cyrus - Forbes

The point is she's successful at what she does. People shouldn't get bent out of shape because of it.
I actually feel sorry for entertainers. Their whole life is about the stage... That's the only place the world makes sense to them.

fastfredracing 10-05-2013 09:57 AM

Sorry about the pics z man, I didn't catch it, until Sid pointed it out!

Rick Lee 10-05-2013 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 7690455)
She worth about $150,000,000...

More here from Forbes about her recent income stream.

Miley Cyrus - Forbes

The point is she's successful at what she does. People shouldn't get bent out of shape because of it.
I actually feel sorry for entertainers. Their whole life is about the stage... That's the only place the world makes sense to them.

A $ 1.2 million box office draw means she might see $100k of that at most (which isn't bad for a day's pay). And, if that's computed from ticket face values, she can't sell out a small arena. Her costs have to be through the roof. Van Halen has a $1 million per night guarantee and there are only four guys on stage. How many dancers and handlers are on Miley's payroll? Imagine having to pay for hotels, trans. and per diem for all that. Yeah, she makes a ton from her previous character. But I don't think her current earnings are even close to what she used to make. And I don't see how being talked about online translates into a bigger paycheck.

Don Plumley 10-05-2013 04:34 PM

The Oatmeal: How to refurbish a pop star

imcarthur 10-05-2013 05:30 PM

Or to spell it out:

"In almost the blink of a show-business eye she’s managed to completely erase the image of Miley as Hannah Montana and become Miley the adult pop singer. This just goes to show that you can change public perception and do it fast with the right guidance and PR campaign. Take notice that nowhere so far have I mentioned her talent. Decide for yourself whether what she offers speaks to you (or your kids). For that matter, take talent completely out of the picture. What we’re talking about here is more a case study on how to change public opinion quickly in three simple steps.

1. Bury the old image and perception. Don’t acknowledge the past because from this point forward it’s dead.

2. Appear in the most public situation possible, then wear the new perception like a comfortable overcoat, only outrageously so. Make people gasp. Make them talk, tweet and share.

3. Begin a barrage media campaign on multiple formats completely in the new perception. Be prepared to act upon every situation presented, and then execute robustly.

That, my friends, is how to recreate your image overnight. The brilliance of Miley Cyrus is that she was willing to do it with vigor." Forbes

Ian

flatbutt 10-05-2013 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by imcarthur (Post 7690943)
Or to spell it out:

"
That, my friends, is how to recreate your image overnight. The brilliance of Miley Cyrus is that she was willing to do it with vigor." Forbes

Ian

and with the adoration of ignorant masses that are entertained by such crap

unclebilly 10-05-2013 07:47 PM

What is it with young Disney performers? First Britney Spears and now Miley?

I wonder if this is breaking Billy Ray's heart, his achy breaky heart???

sc_rufctr 10-05-2013 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 7690993)
and with the adoration of ignorant masses that are entertained by such crap

Most people fit into that category (ignorant masses).

"We" are constantly fed a diet of TV and advertising that turns us into obedient potatoes.

M.D. Holloway 10-05-2013 10:29 PM

but some of us see the plan and enjoy the show...lets face facts, shyt ain't gonna change but its fun being able to call the plays even before the huddle is broke...

M.D. Holloway 10-05-2013 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imcarthur (Post 7690943)
Or to spell it out:

"In almost the blink of a show-business eye she’s managed to completely erase the image of Miley as Hannah Montana and become Miley the adult pop singer. This just goes to show that you can change public perception and do it fast with the right guidance and PR campaign. Take notice that nowhere so far have I mentioned her talent. Decide for yourself whether what she offers speaks to you (or your kids). For that matter, take talent completely out of the picture. What we’re talking about here is more a case study on how to change public opinion quickly in three simple steps.

1. Bury the old image and perception. Don’t acknowledge the past because from this point forward it’s dead.

2. Appear in the most public situation possible, then wear the new perception like a comfortable overcoat, only outrageously so. Make people gasp. Make them talk, tweet and share.

3. Begin a barrage media campaign on multiple formats completely in the new perception. Be prepared to act upon every situation presented, and then execute robustly.

That, my friends, is how to recreate your image overnight. The brilliance of Miley Cyrus is that she was willing to do it with vigor." Forbes

Ian

and I caught her act on SNL and yup, she killed off Hanna even said it during the show! She didn't apologize and she sure did grasp her new ID...

all going according to plan...

Geronimo '74 10-06-2013 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 7689693)
Sinead O’Connor is a JOKE...


Bat ship crazy, but man she can SING!

Miley, meh, not even close to the level of Sinead. Cheap skank with a rich daddy.

Chocaholic 10-06-2013 05:00 AM

The part of this no one is discussing...this "transformation" strategy involves a gross compromise in integrity and self respect. Still need to sleep at night, look in the mirror, etc. Perhaps the money makes that easier or perhaps she just has no scruples, but with 9 figures in the checking account, you'd think her handlers might be told to pack sand. But, what do I know?

Gogar 10-06-2013 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 7691282)
Cheap skank with a rich daddy.

Just to be fair, she doesn't have a rich daddy; she made more money before she could drive a car than her daddy ever did in his whole career. But yeah, it hasn't stopped the skankiness. I blame Hugh R.

M.D. Holloway 10-06-2013 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 7691325)
The part of this no one is discussing...this "transformation" strategy involves a gross compromise in integrity and self respect. Still need to sleep at night, look in the mirror, etc. Perhaps the money makes that easier or perhaps she just has no scruples, but with 9 figures in the checking account, you'd think her handlers might be told to pack sand. But, what do I know?

easy to say but if given the chance albeit it slight to bank 150 very large would you 'play act' the part of a skank for awhile only to come back a few years after the fact and say 'I was just young and dumb'...

I can't say I would be any better. That kinda chink can bring a whole lotta comfort. Besides, like a crimminal or curupted clergy or politicains they have great rationalization skills and can compartmentalize it away.

Do they sleep at night? hell ya! many sleep just fine! But the few that don't kill them selves or drug up. You don't think Michael Jackson wasn't dealing with demons? He demanded GA just to get a decent night sleep.

Chocaholic 10-06-2013 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by M.D. Holloway (Post 7691432)
easy to say but if given the chance albeit it slight to bank 150 very large would you 'play act' the part of a skank for awhile only to come back a few years after the fact and say 'I was just young and dumb'...

I can't say I would be any better. That kinda chink can bring a whole lotta comfort. Besides, like a crimminal or curupted clergy or politicains they have great rationalization skills and can compartmentalize it away.

Do they sleep at night? hell ya! many sleep just fine! But the few that don't kill them selves or drug up. You don't think Michael Jackson wasn't dealing with demons? He demanded GA just to get a decent night sleep.



Sounds like a deal with the devil. With 9 figures in the bank, sheesh...that's plenty of "comfort". Could certainly have had a fulfilling career without going down that path too.

sc_rufctr 10-06-2013 08:45 AM

The Devil? Compared to what?

How much does a top porn star make? Peanuts compared to Miley and they work hard for that money. (Considering what they have to do :eek:)

Miley is doing what most people would do in her situation. 95% of people live a life of repetitive drudgery. The best they can hope for is being able to travel a bit once they retire.
There's a lottery counter shop near the food hall in my local mall. The line for tickets is mostly old people no longer working.

Dreams forefilled? ;)

imcarthur 10-14-2013 05:59 AM

And as an endnote, her new album Bangerz is actually pretty decent & it is charting high. Some solid pop hits, some mixed-genre cuts etc. It’s very well produced (for pop mainstream) with excellent mastering by Dave Kutch (Focal alert!) in NYC. It should do well.

Ian

M.D. Holloway 10-14-2013 07:23 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1381760602.jpg

Just food for thought...

McLovin 10-14-2013 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 7690469)
A $ 1.2 million box office draw means she might see $100k of that at most (which isn't bad for a day's pay). And, if that's computed from ticket face values, she can't sell out a small arena. Her costs have to be through the roof. Van Halen has a $1 million per night guarantee and there are only four guys on stage. How many dancers and handlers are on Miley's payroll? Imagine having to pay for hotels, trans. and per diem for all that. Yeah, she makes a ton from her previous character. But I don't think her current earnings are even close to what she used to make. And I don't see how being talked about online translates into a bigger paycheck.

No, she's going to see a lot more than $100K on $1.2 million.


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