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biosurfer1 10-06-2013 08:42 AM

Thought Wayne (and anyone else) would like to see a "new" car prep on the last 959
 
Thought this was pretty cool mostly because this 959 has been in storage since new and the detail place had to even remove the shipping protection!

Metropolitan Detail | "The Last 959 in Existence" | 1988 Porsche 959 | Elite Detail | Bellevue | Seattle | Kirkland | Redmond

island911 10-06-2013 09:19 AM

Local hearsay is that this last produced 959 was purchased with (next to) zero mileage.

Apparently it's being prep'd to be driven. Wow. Thanks.

Edit: yep, the link even talks about the new-car coating.

speeder 10-06-2013 09:24 AM

It was cool up until they applied film to the entire body of the car. What a weird thing to do to a high-value ride like that.

biosurfer1 10-06-2013 12:06 PM

I agree Denis. I'm sure the new owner wants to protect the paint but really, how much is he/she really going to drive it. I suppose that stuff is easily taken off though

911SauCy 10-06-2013 12:13 PM

After examining each photo I am not all that impressed with these detailers...never mind the film.

High speed polishers on a car thats been sitting for years, taping off stuff to avoid "splatter", multiple body panel materials to be considered...etc etc. I wouldn't have let these guys touch my Altima.

IMHO, on a car of this magnitude, much more care should have been taken.

speeder 10-06-2013 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911SauCy (Post 7691906)
After examining each photo I am not all that impressed with these detailers...never mind the film.

High speed polishers on a car thats been sitting for years, taping off stuff to avoid "splatter", multiple body panel materials to be considered...etc etc. I wouldn't have let these guys touch my Altima.

IMHO, on a car of this magnitude, much more care should have been taken.

I agree 100%. I was going to hold back on the critique of the detailers but they really seem awful. :(

911SauCy 10-06-2013 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 7691912)
I agree 100%. I was going to hold back on the critique of the detailers but they really seem awful. :(

Glad I could help :D

BGCarrera32 10-06-2013 01:11 PM

Nothing wrong with the film in moderation yet all over the entire fender is a bit much... Xpel film works really well and if done properly from 5-10' away, you look right past it. 3M film is even clearer IMO after having used both. The trick is to put in the extra effort and wrap the leading edge of the hood to protect if from chips there as well.

Another good option: Videos - 3M Auto

Say what you want but getting 24+ year old cosmoline and shipping protector off must have been a chore. Taping off plastic lenses is done to avoid risk of damage from dry burn through of the polishing pad, which is a smart thing to do if you're not removing the lens.

Awesome car...

herr_oberst 10-06-2013 01:50 PM

Great car, fun pictures, but I, too, have a concern about one picture in particular; the one where the guy is manhandling the hood badge off. Maybe it's just a trick of the light, but it looks like he is putting too much oomph into getting this delicate little piece of unobtanium off. (The new ones at the dealer are a little different, a little cheaper in quality). Very easy to taco a badge by pulling from the top and bottom the way he's showing.

nzporsche944s2 10-06-2013 01:56 PM

I think it looked great in that Matt Black look before they started detailing it...

Lovely lines that defined the 911 look for the next generation. Remember that when this was rolling off the production line 964s, 944s, and 928s were still being made....

911SauCy 10-06-2013 03:05 PM

I really can't enough of the final shots of the car...959s are Godly.

Gogar 10-06-2013 06:23 PM

i can't believe this thread has gone in the direction it has

w00t911 10-23-2013 10:23 AM

John and Benjamin's crew have now detailed (and clear bra'd) my prized cars for 5 years and there is only one word for their work.... breathtaking!

They are true motor heads and more so are passionate about Porsches. anyone who doubts their work should just go and see their modus operandi.

Bill Douglas 10-23-2013 10:52 AM

Nice scissor lift.

biosurfer1 10-23-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w00t911 (Post 7718734)
John and Benjamin's crew have now detailed (and clear bra'd) my prized cars for 5 years and there is only one word for their work.... breathtaking!

They are true motor heads and more so are passionate about Porsches. anyone who doubts their work should just go and see their modus operandi.

What does your prized car collection consist of?

matt711 10-23-2013 11:30 AM

The finished job looks pretty good to me. Interesting that for a car that was not driven the IronX wheel cleaner sure seemed to turn purple which according to the product is what happens when it reacts to brake dust containing iron. I would definitely let them detail my F250... :)

speeder 10-23-2013 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nzporsche944s2 (Post 7692033)
I think it looked great in that Matt Black look before they started detailing it...

Lovely lines that defined the 911 look for the next generation. Remember that when this was rolling off the production line 964s, 944s, and 928s were still being made....

Actually, 964s were not "still" being made-they had not begun making them yet. The 964 Carrera 4 was the first production application of 959 technology, i.e. an AWD 911. The 993 turbo was the car that really had a lot of 959 in it, AWD+twin turbos, ABS, etc...

I had no problem with the way they were removing the cosmoline from the 959 but using a rotary high-speed buffer on brand new paint is bananas unless it's part of some aggressive wet-sanding or something. When I sold new Porsches in the '80s, I saw a couple of customers send new 911s to body shops for wet-sanding out the orange peel, which was extreme in those days.

Personally, I'd rather keep as much factory paint as possible on these cars no matter how bumpy it is.

Cosmoline really becomes impossible to remove when it gets baked onto engine/transmission cases and other chassis parts. It was supposed to be removed by the dealer when the cars were PPI'ed but a lot of them were not, or rather only removed from the body of the car. There was a special solution that the new car prep guys sprayed on and then it just power-washed off easily. It sucks when it's burned onto nice cases and aluminum chassis parts. :cool:

aigel 10-23-2013 07:34 PM

A little aggressive on the buffing, alright. And I can see why you'd cover in vinyl. Just need to stay on top of it and pull it every few years to redo. Any of you have a Porsche? ;) You'll know what stone chips do to it. I have some them, even up all the way on the roof.

I am happy that it is getting readied to be driven.

G

1990C4S 10-23-2013 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 7718885)
When I sold new Porsches in the '80s,

:eek:

Most interesting part of this thread.

Porsche-O-Phile 10-24-2013 02:59 AM

Nice photos and thanks for sharing. I was a little surprised by the techniques used. Wouldn't a steam & citrus cleaner ruin any protective oils on the mechanical parts? I have this nagging feeling that the undercarriage and suspension components, now stripped of any protection are now slowly starting to oxidize and corrode thanks to this...

It definitely looked like these guys were a bit too aggressive but hard to tell from still photos. The end product looks pretty nice. One of my "top 5" cars of all time (along with the Ferrari 250 GTO, Aston Martin DB5, Bugatti Type 41 and the Mercedes 300 SL gull wing). They're that beautiful IMHO.


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