Is this real?
 

98K, I would hope so.....

Certainly looks it. And 98k is a deal - a rebuildable core is worth 50-60k.

Of course, if'n I were playing with these kinds of things at those kinds of prices I'd drop the $ on a quick flight and a few nights in a hotel to really check it out...

At $125,000 now with two days to go.

Question - why would you store an engine of this value with bean oil which, according to the seller, solidifies and requires a partial tear-down/cleaning after storage? Aren't there products on the market specifically for stored engines?

angela

Bean oil? Like in Soybean oil? Vegetable oil? Are they nuts? I have never heard of this being used to preserve a piece of mechanical equipment, short of a black powder weapon.

If they'd have used transmission fluid, all you'd have to do is put fresh oil and fire the sucker up.

The writing oozes with arrogance. I would not give that seller a penny of my hard earned, even if it meant pushing my 356. ;)

G

Cool - those engine are like art work.

Years ago I picked up this 356 engine block complete with crank and rods that was re-built by a shop in CA.....I have some of the specs somewhere and it's a matching case. I've picked up heads for it plus a NOS set of pistons, gasket sets, oil cooler, shroud, generator, and stand, and some other odds and ends but have not found the time to do anything else with it.

Guess it will appreciate over time - doesn't take up much space....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1389240787.jpg

agree..the seller is pretty smarmy. If I'm going to spend 125K on an engine, I sure as hell want to know who did the work on it. And I want to see copies of the records PRIOR to purchase.

It will go for over 200k.

$125k.....two crappy pictures.....no details on a supposed rebuild......YGBSM.

Motormeister, maybe?:cool:

It's up to $130k now.

Something sounds fishy.
"Copy of build details goes to buyer -post sale." This is bizarre. "You buy it, then I'll tell you what it is."

Exactly. A good build is a selling point, i.e. more money for the seller. Makes me really wonder about the build.

It looks like a model engine. :)

It did to me as well, hence the question.."is this real"?

The tilt-shift photos make it look like a 1/100th scale. Wouldn't be surprised if it turns to be "very questionable" after sale.

and as i said anyone dropping that kind of cash is a fool for not seeing it in person

FWIW....there's a thread on the 356 Registry forum about this auction:

Porsche356registry.org - ebay 4 cam motor on ebay picture looks odd.

In particular, a member Joris Koning mentions this is the original engine out of his '57 coupe and he had been in contact with the seller prior to this auction, to try and obtain it for his car. Joris says in his post:

That's a shame....so for me with this new information and as some has said in our thread this guy (the eBay seller) appears to be a real dolt.....

Yea, with that post above the offer to swap for a running documented engine the engine owner is an idiot not to do a straight up swap. There must be something fishy going on.

I guess I will not buy it. ;)

Well....after some sleuthing....I've discovered who the owner is....and I have actually met the man.

Quite a while back I purchased a DVD from him with some vintage 356 racing footage. He used to live in the area and I met him through our PCA region.

Welcome!

(Click on the "cars" link to see the engine listed in the auction)

He's not a bad guy - but I agree with Glen - he should have dealt with Joris on that engine swap....

Seller killed the ad and hasn't started over.....

Yup.

Here's what he posted:

In a few minutes I will cancel this auction.
Mainly because of the confusion regarding "GT" -vs- "Carrera" -vs- "plain ol' 4-cam motor" designations.

I am notifying the current bidders about this cancellation directly.
As well, notifying a few serious 'players' interested in purchasing the motor who have expressed some concern over the referenced 'confusion'.
(While 99% of them know exactly what this motor is, and isn't - there's that 1% I don't need to encounter at the close of the auction.)

The motor will reappear as an eBay auction on MONDAY next.
All the details shall remain the same, save for any mention of any 'qualifying designators'.
It's 'just' a Porsche 4-cam motor, Typ 547/1.
Simple as that.

Please pardon any problem this process may produce.
All I want to do is sell the thing.
(And I don't want/need to educate persons about these rare gems; seems I do that a LOT- and not just about those pesky designators.)

Thanks for the good 'conversations' we've had, and all the visits the auction has received.
Come back Monday and it starts anew- with a positive result at the end; somebody will go home (figuratively) with this motor!

Have a great weekend!

Sounds like some people thought he was a d*ck and started messing with him, and he went on to prove them right.

My guess was that he was only at $98k, but he was hoping to be at $200k.

I read that he had it on TheSamba for $260k, IIRC

Geez - how much is a car worth with this engine in it - all #s matching and nice?

G

could be well into the 7 figure range depending on the car and provenance.

this engine alone will sell for over $200k as I indicated in an earlier post. I would suggest the seller take the engine to the rm or cuys auctions where he will get a feeding frenzy. stay away from barret Jackson or ebay.

It's back on eBay:

BIN at $225.00....or make an offer. Five Day auction.

Porsche 4 Cam Motor "Twin Cam" | eBay

Way overpriced... He'll never see north of $100,000 IMO.

[This item was listed here last week. It was briefly removed through the weekend due to an error in the description. There are a number of individuals here (US) and abroad who are keen to acquire it. Through the weekend there was a continual flow of offers & counter offers, as well requests for additional information. Rather than conduct a 'bidding war' through emails & phone calls, and because the motor was promised to be re-posted here on eBay- it's BACK now! It will sell by FRIDAY, if not sooner.]

LOL, what a tool. Terrible ad with lots of weird formatting, no details, and two pictures. I'd be embarrassed to sell a cheap used car like that, but for a $225k 50+ year old motor?