FL Retired cop, shoots texting wanker

[foxpaws]

Originally Posted by bivenator

You can legally kill them if they have stolen property, you cannot legally kill them if the property is not stolen.

But, isn't it true it has to be at night - deadly force with regards to stolen property is only an option at night in Texas?

[EMJ]

Originally Posted by Heel n Toe

BTW, you're the only person here asserting that "Foxy has kicked my arse in every post."

So please stop trying to establish it as fact that you are part of a group that is saying the same thing.

You got yourself into this mess by claiming something you can't back up... don't embarrass yourself further by thinking you're going to have a posse come help you out.

Don't need a posse. You embarrass yourself with every post while most here are debating. Troll on this subject - as others have said.

[EMJ]

Originally Posted by Heel n Toe

You have to back up your assertions with reasoned responses.

All you're doing is saying, just look at this and that, and everyone will see it exactly as I see it.

Sorry, that doesn't work in the real world.

So you're just left with empty claims.

Again.

But thanks for trying.

Stop dancing: How can you can defend someone who shot an innocent, the victim's wife, and could have possibly shot others? Did the wife deserve to be shot?

[Heel n Toe]

Originally Posted by EMJ

Don't need a posse. You embarrass yourself with every post while most here are debating. Troll on this subject - as others have said.

Again, all you're doing is saying, just look at this and that, and everyone will see it exactly as I see it.

Sorry, that doesn't work in the real world. You have to back up your statements with reasoned responses.. if you want to be taken seriously.

And you haven't done that... no matter how much you wish you have.

So you're just left with empty claims.

Again.

But thanks for trying.

[Heel n Toe]

Originally Posted by EMJ

Stop dancing: How can you can defend someone who shot an innocent, the victim's wife, and could have possibly shot others? Did the wife deserve to be shot?

Deflection again? You're the one who's dancing.

You need to back up your other assertions first.

While you're doing your research, you can look for where I said the things you are now claiming.

[EMJ]

Originally Posted by Heel n Toe

Deflection again? You're the one who's dancing.

You need to back up your other assertions first.

While you're doing your research, you can look for where I said the things you are now claiming.

Direct question, not a deflection. How about answering it? I see you have nothing to say now.

[fintstone]

No the wife did not deserve to be shot...and would not have been if her husband had not been acting like a douche bag.

[EMJ]

Originally Posted by fintstone

No the wife did not deserve to be shot...and would not have been if her husband had not been acting like a douche bag.

...and would not have been if the old man hadn't shot her. So, the texter deserved to be shot? Not saying you stated this, just asking the question.

[bivenator]

Originally Posted by foxpaws

But, isn't it true it has to be at night - deadly force with regards to stolen property is only an option at night in Texas?

I think the "at night" qualifier is a different state. I could be mistaken but he shot the man during a daytime burglary so at least in this case the "only at night" stipulation did not apply if that were the case.

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Weeeee!

[Heel n Toe]

Originally Posted by EMJ

Direct question, not a deflection. How about answering it? I see you have nothing to say now.

It may be a direct question, but you still need to back up your other assertions first.

If you want to be taken seriously.

That's just how it works.

You've got time... I need to be gone for awhile.

Give it your best shot.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by EMJ

...and would not have been if the old man hadn't shot her...

Technically he did not shoot her.

She stuck her hand in front of his bullet.

Carry on.

[EMJ]

Originally Posted by Heel n Toe

It may be a direct question, but you still need to back up your other assertions first.

If you want to be taken seriously.

That's just how it works.

You've got time... I need to be gone for awhile.

Give it your best shot.

Okay, tap dancer. You just go ahead and wait for me.

[EMJ]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

Technically he did not shoot her.

She stuck her hand in front of his bullet.

Carry on.

Really? The gun didn't fire the bullet that struck her hand that the old man fired? He meant to just murder one person and not injure the other? His intent doesn't change the fact.

[bivenator]

Do you need help making a sign for your missing goat?

[fintstone]

No...according to his testimony...he was defending himself. She placed herself in the line of fire trying to restrain her husband's attack on the older man. An accident.

[Tervuren]

Originally Posted by Baz

FP: Where are you getting this equal blame? Who said that? Not me, I know for a fact.

There is not equal blame.

Just circumstances which led up to the shooting - including poor decision making from both parties.

Not equal.

But the texter would likely still be alive today had he been courteous in the first place....that's for sure.

Without facts, I do not think there is much more to say about this then is contained in your post here.

[EMJ]

Originally Posted by fintstone

--snip-- She placed herself in the line of fire trying to restrain her husband's attack on the older man. An accident.

All the more reason an experienced retired police captain should've known better than to shoot in that situation. No way will he get off - he wasn't even touched by the man.

[fintstone]

Of course he was. There seems to be no disagreement that he was struck...as a minimum, by a bag of popcorn.

[Tervuren]

Originally Posted by stuartj

Is that what happened? Do you know?

What we do know- according to the posted report- is one person pulled out a gun and killed another when a minor incident escalated.

I suggest that absent the gun, everyone would likely have gone home alive.

So I suppose this guy was shot for running a red light?
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