Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Miscellaneous and Off Topic Forums > Off Topic Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 1 votes, 5.00 average.
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
dewolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 7,917
A Lot Of Rotating Mass!!

Very, Very cool


__________________
In Heaven… the mechanics are German, the chefs are French, the police are British, the lovers are Italian and everything is organized by the Swiss.
In Hell…the mechanics are French, the police are German, the chefs are British, the lovers are Swiss and everything is organized by the Italians.
Old 01-19-2014, 11:57 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Woodlands TX
Posts: 3,963
That is a fantastic contraption
__________________
84 930
07 Exige S
Old 01-20-2014, 08:13 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Max Sluiter
 
Flieger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: So Cal
Posts: 19,644
Garage
If you think that is wacky in a car, try it in a plane



The idea behind rotary engines was that it enhanced cooling, and I believe the oil system used centrifugal force. Downside was the pronounced gyroscopic effects that coupled climbing and yawing making for interesting handling.

By the way, no throttles on WW1 rotaries. Just ignition cuts.
__________________
1971 911S, 2.7RS spec MFI engine, suspension mods, lightened
Suspension by Rebel Racing, Serviced by TLG Auto, Brakes by PMB Performance
Old 01-20-2014, 08:27 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
cstreit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Naperville, IL USA
Posts: 14,971
Garage
That is a fantastically scary looking thing there. Love it. Wouldn't want to work on it while it's running though. Yikes!
__________________
Chris
----------------------------------------------

1996 993 RS Replica
2023 KTM 890 Adventure R
1971 Norton 750 Commando
Alcon Brake Kits
Old 01-20-2014, 09:49 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
resident samsquamch
 
sand_man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cooterville, Cackalacky
Posts: 6,815
That's crazy!!! I luv it!
__________________
-jeff
back in the saddle: '95 993 - just another black C2
*SOLD*: '87 930 GP White - heroin would have been a cheaper addiction...
"Ladies and Gentlemen, from Boston Massachusetts, we are Morphine, at your service..." - Mark Sandman (RIP)
Old 01-21-2014, 04:31 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
resident samsquamch
 
sand_man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cooterville, Cackalacky
Posts: 6,815
...and LMAO at the sound coming out of that plane posted by Flieger
__________________
-jeff
back in the saddle: '95 993 - just another black C2
*SOLD*: '87 930 GP White - heroin would have been a cheaper addiction...
"Ladies and Gentlemen, from Boston Massachusetts, we are Morphine, at your service..." - Mark Sandman (RIP)
Old 01-21-2014, 04:34 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 920
The airplane sounds that way because those radial rotary piston engines did not have a throttle. they ran wide open. the stutter you hear is whats called a blip switch, that is the only way to slow the engine down or make the plane lose alt.
The blip switch kills ign to some cylinders to shut it down.
Old 01-21-2014, 07:26 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Home of the Whopper
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Rocky Top, TN
Posts: 6,910
Garage
So if the crankshaft stays stationary, what turns the wheels?
__________________
1968 912 coupe
1971 911E Targa rustbucket
1972 914 1.7
1987 924S
Old 01-21-2014, 08:17 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
fred cook's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Deep South
Posts: 5,145
Garage
What turns the wheels

Quote:
Originally Posted by BK911 View Post
So if the crankshaft stays stationary, what turns the wheels?
The crankcase is geared to the transmission rather than the crankshaft. I don't know what kind of gearbox this car has, but an engine running at a constant speed would be great with a variable gear/pulley system.
__________________
FEC3
1980 911SC coupe "Zeus" 3.3SS
god of thunder and lightning
Old 01-21-2014, 01:52 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 15,612
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rednine11 View Post
The airplane sounds that way because those radial rotary piston engines did not have a throttle. they ran wide open. the stutter you hear is whats called a blip switch, that is the only way to slow the engine down or make the plane lose alt.
The blip switch kills ign to some cylinders to shut it down.
No throttle, just ON and OFF. What a crazy Fokker
Old 01-21-2014, 03:58 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
I'm a Country Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 13,451
To think they did battle in these things. The planes must have killed more than the enemy...
__________________
Stuart

To know what is the right thing to do and not do it is the greatest cowardice.
Old 01-21-2014, 04:06 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Registered
 
BReif61's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Harford Co, MD
Posts: 1,623
Quote:
Originally Posted by rusnak View Post
No throttle, just ON and OFF. What a crazy Fokker
__________________
-Brad
2002 Carrera2
1986 944 Turbo
Old 01-21-2014, 04:52 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
resident samsquamch
 
sand_man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cooterville, Cackalacky
Posts: 6,815
Quote:
Originally Posted by stuartj View Post
To think they did battle in these things. The planes must have killed more than the enemy...
My thoughts exactly. I'd be afraid to stand next to that thing while on the ground!!
__________________
-jeff
back in the saddle: '95 993 - just another black C2
*SOLD*: '87 930 GP White - heroin would have been a cheaper addiction...
"Ladies and Gentlemen, from Boston Massachusetts, we are Morphine, at your service..." - Mark Sandman (RIP)
Old 01-21-2014, 04:53 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Higgs Field
Posts: 22,653
Very cool, dewolf, very cool. Thanks for posting.

I've read that with airplanes set up with motors like this, it was actually faster to go 270 degrees around to the left than to make a 90 degree right hand turn. I've seen several of this configuration run and fly at our local EAA fly-in in Arlington, WA. Amazing stuff.
__________________
Jeff
'72 911T 3.0 MFI
'93 Ducati 900 Super Sport
"God invented whiskey so the Irish wouldn't rule the world"
Old 01-21-2014, 06:10 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Slackerous Maximus
 
HardDrive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 18,206
Major mechanical failure could be a bloody hazard to anyone passing by. Gives new meaning to throwing a rod.
__________________
2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor.
2012 Harley Davidson Road King
2014 Triumph Bonneville T100.
2014 Cayman S, PDK.
Mercedes E350 family truckster.
Old 01-21-2014, 06:39 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Registered
 
dewolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 7,917
Quote:
Originally Posted by HardDrive View Post
Major mechanical failure could be a bloody hazard to anyone passing by. Gives new meaning to throwing a rod.
LOl....you'd almost need a scattershield!!
__________________
In Heaven… the mechanics are German, the chefs are French, the police are British, the lovers are Italian and everything is organized by the Swiss.
In Hell…the mechanics are French, the police are German, the chefs are British, the lovers are Swiss and everything is organized by the Italians.
Old 01-22-2014, 04:16 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Fleabit peanut monkey
 
Bob Kontak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: North Canton, Ohio
Posts: 20,747
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by dewolf View Post
LOl....you'd almost need a scattershield!!
Not even one warning sticker under the hood.

(I will bet that car still uses R12 for the AC)
__________________
1981 911SC Targa
Old 01-22-2014, 09:35 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
B58/732
 
BlueSkyJaunte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Hot as Hell, AZ
Posts: 12,313
You think that's crazy? How about a front-wheel-drive radial engine MOTORCYCLE?

__________________
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
I don't always talk to vegetarians--but when I do, it's with a mouthful of bacon.
Old 01-22-2014, 09:58 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
 
Ubi bene ibi patria
 
Hawkeye's-911T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: For the most part, in my garage.
Posts: 2,527
Garage
Quote:
By Flieger: Downside was the pronounced gyroscopic effects that coupled climbing and yawing making for interesting handling.
Too true - the aviation guys on the board will point out that any inputs on the joystick/control column end up being 90 degrees removed from the desired effect. (the Sopwith Camel gained some notoriety in this regard). This is to say yaw inputs became pitch control & thusly pitch inputs controlled yaw. Right on the joystick - the aircraft pitches down; left on the stick - aircraft pitches up. It has often been pointed out that pilot induced oscillations arising from these confusing effects killed more pilot trainees than actual combat deaths - although I am sure that one is up for some debate.

Cheers
JB

__________________
“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not - both are equally terrifying” ― Arthur C. Clarke

"As soon as laws are necessary for men, they are no longer fit for freedom." - Pythagoras
Old 01-22-2014, 02:55 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:42 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.