Kalifornia strikes again......

[fred cook]

Gun flight: Smith & Wesson, Ruger quit California over stamping requirement | Fox News

Thanks to a law that requires a gun to microstamp the fired cartridge case or primer, both Smith & Wesson and Ruger have announced that they are pulling out of the state. Look for others to follow. Of course, this will mean that there will be fewer firearms available for residents of Kalifornia.

[biosurfer1]

"Law-enforcement is exempt from microstamping requirements." Why?

How does micro-stamping differ from registering guns in the first place. All anyone has to do is report the firearm stolen and there's your reasonable doubt that just because the bullet came from certain gun, doesn't mean the owner is the one who fired it.

[BeyGon]

Originally Posted by fred cook

Gun flight: Smith & Wesson, Ruger quit California over stamping requirement | Fox News

Thanks to a law that requires a gun to microstamp the fired cartridge case or primer, both Smith & Wesson and Ruger have announced that they are pulling out of the state. Look for others to follow. Of course, this will mean that there will be fewer firearms available for residents of Kalifornia.

will be good for gun sales again, buy now.

[Bill Douglas]

So if you are up to something you shouldn't be, use a revolver.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Originally Posted by fred cook

Gun flight: Smith & Wesson, Ruger quit California over stamping requirement | Fox News



Thanks to a law that requires a gun to microstamp the fired cartridge case or primer, both Smith & Wesson and Ruger have announced that they are pulling out of the state. Look for others to follow. Of course, this will mean that there will be fewer firearms available for residents of Kalifornia.

This is exactly what they want to happen. It's a way of banning gun ownership without coming right out and banning them. It's a de facto ban though as it will have the same effect - people won't have them (except criminals of course - the badged ones and the non-badged ones).

[speeder]

At my current rate of consumption, I think I have enough ammo for about 46 lifetimes. And I only have one small box. But I very rarely shoot anyone.

[porwolf]

Gun micro stamping laws sound like a good idea. What is wrong with micro stamping guns? Law abiding gun owners should all be in favor of it. They never use, or intend to use their guns illegally. Only law brakers and those with criminal intent should fear micro stamping guns.

[Brando]

Are you honestly being serious?

Originally Posted by porwolf

Gun micro stamping laws sound like a good idea. What is wrong with micro stamping guns? Law abiding gun owners should all be in favor of it. They never use, or intend to use their guns illegally. Only law brakers and those with criminal intent should fear micro stamping guns.

[nynor]

why yes, yes he is. that is the level of discourse you can expect from porwolf. in fact, that post was pretty good.

as for microstamping ammunition and such, pshaw.... that will accomplish nothing. good for SW and Ruger for following their ideals.

[masraum]

Meh, no big deal. I don't live in California, and the fruits and nuts there don't like guns anyway.

j/k to you gun loving fruits and nuts.

[Tobra]

I read that article and am confused about some things.

How could the firing pin put a microstamp on the bullet?

It looks like this only applies to semi-automatic handguns. Why wouldn't the criminals just use revolvers or rifles to shoot people, or just use stolen guns like they do now?

How could a reasonable person think this would have any hope of reducing crime?

Guess I better go buy some guns.

I really hate what these liberal D-bags have done to my state. Glad I still have my Texas license. Not sure how much longer I am willing to put up with this to stay close to my family.

[nynor]

you used the word reasonable in the context of california and guns....

[Tobra]

Nice catch, don't know what I was thinking about

[nynor]

who leaves their brass? not me....

"Firearm microstamping, or ballistic imprinting, works by engraving a microscoping marking onto the tip of the firing pin. When the gun is fired, it leaves an imprint, usually of a serial number, on the bullet casings."

[Rick Lee]

Wouldn't people just swap out the firing pins? I've done it before. Besides, after a few hundred rounds, I doubt the microstamp would still be recognizable. I have well over 10k rds through one SIG and have replaced the original extractor. No way would that gun's ballistic signature today look anything like it did when it was new almost 20 yrs ago.

[Red88Carrera]

Give me some of your microstamped casings and I'll leave them at my crime scene. It's better than DNA.
porwolf, you are very narrow-minded if you don't think that will happen.

[DARISC]

Originally Posted by Tobra

I read that article and am confused about some things.

How could the firing pin put a microstamp on the bullet?

Gee, that's a good question! LOL

[nynor]

so explain it, darisc.... come on, let's have a sample of your indubitable acumen.

[HHI944]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

Wouldn't people just swap out the firing pins? I've done it before. Besides, after a few hundred rounds, I doubt the microstamp would still be recognizable. I have well over 10k rds through one SIG and have replaced the original extractor. No way would that gun's ballistic signature today look anything like it did when it was new almost 20 yrs ago.

That's kinda what I was thinking.....I just can't imagine the 'stamp' not marring beyond recognition rather quickly

[Danimal16]

How about dragging a file across the tip of the pin. Oh and yes that firing pin can be replaced.