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HardDrive 01-25-2014 09:31 PM

Yeah, this thread is related to this thread: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/793494-you-guys-stir-crazy-yet.html

Noah930 01-25-2014 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 7875755)
I'd simply like to know if these wheels are, in fact, forged aluminum alloy wheels, as were the original Fuchs, or are they NOT?

I've never been able to figure out the answer to that, either. For the price they seem to be forged one-piece wheels, but obviously I'd want to know before purchasing for that type of coin.

HardDrive 01-25-2014 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 7875755)
Thanks, couldn't remember the name of that crap company.



What? Asking the question pretty clearly indicates that there is no "assuming they are truely Fuchs".



Yes, and, of course, "to look like authentic Fuchs" is the goal of knock-off manufacturers.

I'd simply like to know if these wheels are, in fact, forged aluminum alloy wheels, as were the original Fuchs, or are they NOT?

I'm looking at the Porsche OEM Sports Classics, which are Fuch's knock offs. I very much doubt PNA is selling a cast wheel.

Noah930 01-25-2014 09:41 PM

You would know much better than I, but I was under the impression that most of the current OEM wheels on modern Porsches (excepting the special edition and GT/turbo models) are cast and not forged.

DARISC 01-25-2014 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 7875763)
...I very much doubt PNA is selling a cast wheel.

Doubts deserve resolution, no? Correct me if I'm wrong; Porsche has not equipped any of its cars with forged aluminum alloy wheels since the demise of its Fuchs wheels.

Current Porsche wheels are all centrifugal castings - light years in advance of the dirt cheap, Bronze Age, gravity, sand castings from the likes of ROTA and other cheap knock-offs of their ilk.

Given the veracity of what I'm posting (check it out, I'm open to correction), don't you want to know, for certain, what you'd be buying?

HardDrive 01-25-2014 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 7875768)
You would know much better than I, but I was under the impression that most of the current OEM wheels on modern Porsches (excepting the special edition and GT/turbo models) are cast and not forged.

Poked around a bit, and I am very likely wrong. Thank you for setting me straight.

......doesn't mean I don't want the wheels:D

aigel 01-25-2014 10:32 PM

Meh - looks bloated / out of proportion. They miss the deep dishes. Reminds me of aftermarket 22" Chevy IROC Z wheels on new Camaros.

G

David 01-26-2014 06:41 AM

The lobster claws are really light for their size. What do the Fuchs weigh?

kach22i 01-26-2014 07:09 AM

A 997 with Fuch's is cool like a new Ferrari with classic wheels on it. Not for everyone, but turns your head for a second look.

Ferrari 458 Italia Receives Vintage HRE Wheels
http://www.gtspirit.com/wp-content/g...5-wheel_tn.jpg
http://www.gtspirit.com/wp-content/g...05-rear_tn.jpg
http://www.gtspirit.com/wp-content/g...05-nose_tn.jpg

I also like Penta-like 5-spoke wheels on any year/model Porsche.

http://howeyindustries.com/hre-p45sc.html
http://howeyindustries.com/media/cat...45sc_car01.jpghttp://vrechise.com/getimage.php?i=HRE-P45SC_car_6.jpg

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/997-turbo-gt2/267153-brush-tinted-new-p40sc-conical-series.html
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/a...p;d=1328725958

http://picssr.com/photos/hrewheels/page12
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2834/1...e7257b85_b.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hrewheels/11672843543/
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2823/1...57ea6681_o.jpg

A930Rocket 01-26-2014 09:19 AM

+1

Quote:

Originally Posted by noah930 (Post 7875749)
sorry to be the dissenting vote, but i'm not a fan of the "new" fuchs. The spokes/petals are too narrow for my taste. Somehow the proportion is off in my mind's eye. But obviously i'm in the minority.


Rusty914s 01-26-2014 09:44 AM

That Ferrari would make me turn my head w/twinkies as wheels.

The newer Fuchs aren't my favorite.

willtel 01-26-2014 10:11 AM

http://www.fuchsperformance.com/cms_...r-Lips-800.jpg
http://www.fuchsperformance.com/cms_...view-2-800.jpg
http://www.fuchsperformance.com/cms_...-Black-800.jpg
http://www.fuchsperformance.com/cms_...ellow-8001.jpg
http://www.fuchsperformance.com/cms_...an-800x400.jpg

speeder 01-26-2014 10:50 AM

I agree that they look a little wrong. I don't hate them by any means but the scale/proportion is off a little.

The F-458, OTOH, is a ding-ding-ding winner.

pksystems 01-26-2014 10:52 AM

IMHO all fuchs look like they belong on a school bus. :)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1274568856.jpg

Oracle 01-26-2014 10:53 AM

+1

Those petals are not the same, they don't look good. Sorry but my vote is to keep your hard earned money in your pocket.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 7875749)
Sorry to be the dissenting vote, but I'm not a fan of the "new" Fuchs. The spokes/petals are too narrow for my taste. Somehow the proportion is off in my mind's eye. But obviously I'm in the minority.


aigel 01-27-2014 12:11 AM

Face it - the Fuchs died with the accordion cars and the torsion bars due to the change in suspension geometry.

Everyone heard the term "period correct". What we have here is the opposite. Something from a different era is forced onto a new one ... and it just doesn't work. It is because the ET is off (no significant lip) and the geometry of the petals is completely out of whack at 19" (?). Even the low profile tire looks goofy on there.

If you want fuchs, buy a <89 car.

G

kach22i 01-27-2014 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aigel (Post 7877473)
Everyone heard the term "period correct". What we have here is the opposite. Something from a different era is forced onto a new one ... and it just doesn't work.

You are correct in the 997 example, but what of other examples which do work?

How about the Boxster with Phone-Dials which looks pretty good?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/782166-what-about-porsche.html
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1384787326.jpg

The Ferrari looks even better with the retro wheels.

I think the Fuch's are questionable on the 997 because the scale is thrown off, and the spoke length just gets too long and skinny proportionally.

I have the same issues when viewing some of the Penta-like 5-spokes out there. They get too delicate looking for what used to be a very robust looking hunk of metal.

Not as robust as the school bus wheel/hub, but you get the idea.

LSA 01-27-2014 07:42 AM

I must be a heathen as well because I never cared for fuchs on any year 911/944 phonedials too, no thanks. On those new ones the petals are way too narrow. I think they'd look better a size smaller maybe in 18s.

Those retro stars on the 458 are phenomenal and I really like those 5 spokes. Mmmmmm a simple set of 5 spokes like cup 1s/2s .

BReif61 01-27-2014 08:15 AM

IMO, the black 997 posted with the RSR-esque copies doesn't look bad. I dare say that one looks nice, actually.

Now, I would ever fork over $5k+ to achieve that look, but it isn't a terrible look.

speeder 01-27-2014 08:46 AM

The phone dials look good on the Boxster but they are not iconic rims that are linked to a particular model of car. They would look fine on a Ford Explorer or Hyundai.


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