There. I said it.

Here are some things that allow you to get around in snow and ice.

Find a vehicle with this magic sign on the side. Note the addition on aggressive tread LT tires bottom left.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1391190998.jpg


Fill back of vehicle with removable weight. If needed you can shovel that white stuff out to make room for other stuff. Not seen are two 75 lbs sacks of sand behind rear wheels.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1391191173.jpg


Add removable weight to vehicle. Note It can be spread under tires in ice conditions to provide traction but 104 lbs dog disapproves of this method.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1391191318.jpg

Interesting map

How Much Snow It Takes to Cancel School Across the US

Gonna dispute some of that advice.

4x4 in snow, great. Ice? Depends on the coverage, won't do squat with what we get in TX, not just spots but miles of road covered 100% edge to edge, there is just nothing to provide traction.

And that extra weight, you put it over / on top of the rear wheels, putting it behind them just makes things worse when the ass end decides it wants to be in front.

In a PU truck with weight biased heavily on front wheels, you could not put enough weight in the bed to turn it into a 911 in corners. Anywhere near the rear axle for additional weight would be fine.

As for wet or polished ice, you are correct. You could have 8WD and it would not keep you on a road if any other physical forces were pulling you elsewhere. Many people make the mistake of not understanding 4WD and exactly what kind of additional traction it provides.

That said, 4WD is awesome for forward or rearward traction on slippery surfaces. :cool:

[QUOTE=GWN7;7885732]Here are some things that allow you to get around in snow and ice.

Find a vehicle with this magic sign on the side.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1391190998.jpg

"Magic sign".... Bwahahahaha. :D

[QUOTE=speeder;7885767] There you go!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1391192674.jpg

Nice picture Techweenie :)

I used to drive down to Cleburne every December for a sales meeting. Did that for 6 years. Twice I ran into ice storms. Drove on the shoulder of the road for about 30 miles one year at about 20 mph until I got far enough North to get past the ice on the road. One time I had to drive with two wheels in the ditch grass as the paved shoulder was too slippery to drive on.

Six months of the year I drive on ice/snow and I've had a licence for 42 years. I think I might be qualified to know what works best on most slippery surfaces due to my experience with the subject.

And I like lots of ice in my drinks. :)

That 959 picture above looks like the Atlanta roads in many places - shear ice. You had a hard time walking on it without falling. We have pics that show the same glossy glare.