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RWebb 02-03-2014 09:13 PM

Atrazine
 
Rachel Aviv: The Scientist Who Took on a Leading Herbicide Manufacturer : The New Yorker

sammyg2 02-04-2014 08:53 AM

A wacko from bezerkley comes up with really bizarre research which colleagues discount, he looses his funding, he becomes even more wacko and delusionally paranoid. Does he think he has computer chips embedded into his arm?

Sounds like he's shooting for a sequel to a Russell Crowe's A Beautiful Mind.

Either that or his meds are waaaay off.

RWebb 02-04-2014 11:23 AM

if you bother to read the article you will find that

[1] a top notch scientist finds out that a chemical is dangerous

[2] the company making the chemical spies on him, attempts to assassinate his character, etc. (this is proven by their own internal records)

[3] the chemical company hires their own scientists who nitpick his studies and create some flawed studies of their own

Sam Gore sammy - I did not know you were a shill for this company also - congrats on your second job

Baz 02-04-2014 04:47 PM

Meanwhile the turf care market has moved on to other active ingredients. They actually work better than atrazine too. Broader spectrum.

The issue is the corn farmers according to the article.

My only pet peeve about control products are those applicators who deviate from the labeled directions. Most good lawn & ornamental techs I know take great pride in knowing their stuff and doing everything by the book.

And that Sevin dust is still being manufactured...not good for our pollinators. :(

porwolf 02-04-2014 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 7892497)
if you bother to read the article you will find that

[1] a top notch scientist finds out that a chemical is dangerous

[2] the company making the chemical spies on him, attempts to assassinate his character, etc. (this is proven by their own internal records)

[3] the chemical company hires their own scientists who nitpick his studies and create some flawed studies of their own

Sam Gore sammy - I did not know you were a shill for this company also - congrats on your second job

PARF response:

[1] No chemical that generates profits is dangerous, period.

[2] If an independent scientist objects he must be discredited, period.

[3] All PARFers are 100% behind chemical/oil companies, period

sammyg2 02-05-2014 11:17 AM

I read the article, and as usual you have a hard time differentiating between reality and fantasy. The guy's a wack job and paranoid as all get out, and you believe his dilusions?

Not that much of a surprise really.


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TREES VS. SIDEWALKS

Our “Tree City” of Eugene is planning to remove numerous shade trees so they can save money on sidewalk repair. Besides the reduction in livability, this plan does not comport with the city’s plans to save energy because the reduced shade also increases heat during the summer.

The city may also be on the hook for violations of the federal Endangered Species Act since stormwater flows will be higher in temperature due to the lack of shading, and that damages the habitat of protected salmon and other fish.

If the city has failed to consult with federal agencies on this plan, it may be sued.

Randy Webb, Eugene

RWebb 02-05-2014 12:27 PM

Sam Gore as a maintenance supervisor for an oil co. with a very bad environmental and safety record (Tesoro), I don't expect you be very objective on pollution issues.

I see you have also expended a lot of effort to find a letter (technically termed a Notice of Intent to Sue) that obtained very good results for my clients without having to sue. That makes the City happy, and its taxpayers too.

Dr. Hayes is a highly respected scientist, so it is no surprise that you would attempt to make personal attacks on him, since you are unable to attack his science.

And good luck on trying to get this moved to PARF to keep others from seeing it. Instead, you are bumping it up to the top of the page.

Tobra 02-05-2014 01:29 PM

I thought you pulled that out of your ass Sammy, guess not. Thought he went by "Don" in real life, but I guess semi-anonymous is the way to go for a letter to the editor.
Letters to the Editor: 3-8-2012 | eugeneweekly.com

RWebb 02-05-2014 02:46 PM

you have to wonder why the "dynamic duo" here want to change the topic of this thread

pretty funny since character assassination was used against Dr. Hayes and Rachel Carson as well


Atrazine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Atrazine is banned in the European Union.

You can read the article to see why EPA has not banned it. Here's a hint: it's politics


Rachel Aviv: The Scientist Who Took on a Leading Herbicide Manufacturer : The New Yorker


Atrazine is indeed used on corn, and is also used on canole that has been genetically modified.

Atrazine affects the endocrine system. Studies thus far suggest that atrazine is an endocrine disruptor. Atrazine seems to cause low sperm counts in men, causes demasculinization in male frogs, and can cause males to turn into females.

It is persistent in the soil and can last for months. It contaminates groundwater.

EPA has set guidelines for Atrazine in water, but at that level it harms fish.

Icemaster 02-05-2014 02:56 PM

C'mon Randy, you know that anything that sheds a questionable light on the oil or chemical industry or makes some stop and think is bad. Mmmkay?

Tobra 02-05-2014 04:10 PM

Yeah, that is totally it:rolleyes:


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