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GWN7 02-06-2014 08:57 PM

The article Nostatic posted says "Gregoire did not end up getting arrested. He was released after 30 minutes after the supervisors from CHP and the fire department hashed it out. NBC San Diego says the firefighter could still face charges in the incident."

Well if he wasn't arrested what do they call handcuffing someone and putting them in the back of a police car? Kidnapping is what it is if he wasn't arrested.

afterburn 549 02-07-2014 02:57 AM

Just an other DFC dumbfkncop
Todays generation of ego men......Dont tell me what to do!
And i dont have to do that!

VINMAN 02-07-2014 06:56 AM

Wasnt going to add my opinion on this because im too biased but...

First of all, at an MVA on a highway we dont just place our trucks in a spot to be dicks. Or just because we feel like it. They are placed in a certain spot for strategic and primarily , safety reasons. Mainly to protect, the scene and the guys working there.

Here in NJ, at an MVA, by law the FD has full control over an incident. Once we feel our work is done, and everything is secure, then we will turn it over to the PD.

I've run into a similar scenario a number of time with our local cops. Either refusing to shut down a road or divert traffic away from the scene. The safety of my guys takes precedent over somone stuck in traffic. I had one MVA one day on a major 2 lane highway, 4 vehicles invovled, 2 overturned extensive extrication involved, medevac, etc, etc... the cops had traffic running past us on the shoulder literally a foot away from our backs. I told the PD SGT he had to shut the highway down for safety reasons. he tells me no way. I tell him he has no choice. He says he's not shutting "HIS" highway down on a Sunday during the summer. We go back and forth and just about get into a shoving match. There was a number of the public watching so I stopped screaming at him and I told him ok no problem. I went to my vehicle got on the phone, called the chief of police and explainded the situation.
Five mins later SGT Napolean, walks up to me calling me choice words, and informing me that the highway is being shut down. I thanked him for him unwavering cooperation.

afterburn 549 02-07-2014 02:17 PM

Give some guys a gun and it goes past their brain...or, more then their brain and ego can manage

schamp 02-07-2014 04:18 PM

This type of thing is one reason why I put dash cams in our most used fire trucks. I had a chief once that needed to shut down the interstate for a short while. Ga. Patrol would not do it. Chief had a firefighter pull a non-charged fire hose across the lanes involved and told the trooper to do his job. Its against the law to run over a fire hose. Charged or not. Traffic stopped.
Vinman is right. Your working on a vehicle fire, that you have no idea whats in it, not to mention the 40 plus ways a burning car can hurt you, and you have cars, trucks doing 70 mph a few feet behind you. Your first response when you see something bad while fighting fire is to back up!

VINMAN 02-08-2014 05:42 AM

The cameras are a good idea. We have then in our newest tower ladder. will probably retrofit our other trucks eventually.

It may be against the law to run over a fire hose, but that wont stop a cop from leaning a road flare on a 1/4 mile run of 5" hose. ( yes he really did that...)

sammyg2 02-08-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 7895971)
F ing cops. If its one of their own, then its a different story.

My sister works on CCU. A while back a cop was shot in a shoot our here in LA(when it is not). The cops wheeled their own into and around the hospital. Pushing everyone aside, yelling going first into the elevator looking really mean with two guys walking in front of the Gurney staring everyone down. according to my sis, they were real *******s. what makes their life more valuable then the little boy that need help or the old man sitting on the bed going to surgery? an old guy told me that when one goes into the academy as a good cop and they come out as bad cop or person.

That's the same way they act when they're earning overtime to ride in a day long 1000 officer procession for a downed LEO they never met.

afterburn 549 02-08-2014 11:27 AM

They are acting more NAZI all the time..

MMARSH 02-08-2014 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 7899714)
That's the same way they act when they're earning overtime to ride in a day long 1000 officer procession for a downed LEO they never met.

Nah, we don't get overtime for that....


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