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swbstudios 02-21-2014 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by diverdan (Post 7923075)
Looked at in the correct ligh they were okay except for the Cadillacessness of the later cars and the smog reg choking equipment. One of my favorite rides was my 65 C2 with the 396 off road package. It was brutal! Ride in some of Dick Guldstrand's modified C3s and you will see the car as I believe they should be. The hot engines and taught suspensions were really bargains, yet the public bought few of those examples. GM was not there to make cars. They were there to make money.

Diverdan

I had Guldstrand do some work for me over the years-he really knows his stuff! he signed the dasb on my 67 at Monterey last year and remembered working on it. As to GM only in it to make money-I'd say that the guys in the Corvette group were/are just as dedicated as our friends in Germany when it comes to their sportscar.

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Originally Posted by johnsjmc (Post 7923281)
Having owned a couple. I and many others will break the c3 into 2 early C3 with chrome bumpers (68-72) and C3 1/2 (73-82).The plastic whale 73 up cars don,t do anything for me.
I have a 72 big block car in pieces in the garage at the moment. The vettes are worth the most as close to stock and as heavily optioned as you can find. since buying mine I have removed the headers and huge sidepipes ,replaced the aftermarket wheels and am redoing the interior.
Many vette owners are fanatic about numbers matching. (dated hose clamps etc LOL).
They are overweight and smog laws strangled all motors in the early 70,s .
I also owned a 1964 roadster years ago and it was nicer to look at and lighter.
In summary the C3 can be a decent sporty car and a fun hobby car.
Like many 70,s cars though ,they are more fun to look at than drive.

The 73 was no whale. Not all motors were strangled in the early 70s. LT1s and L82s were still quite fun. My 74 SD455 Trans Am was also far from gutless-just ask the guys in the FOC that I used to regularly pass at Riverside Raceway.
Fanatic about numbers? Some Corvette fans certainly are-no more so than many in the Porsche community.

Nostril Cheese 02-21-2014 08:34 AM

Isnt the motor in the C3 offset to one side?

Dantilla 02-21-2014 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese (Post 7923615)
Isnt the motor in the C3 offset to one side?

When at full-throttle, yes. :D

herr_oberst 02-21-2014 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese (Post 7923615)
Isnt the motor in the C3 offset to one side?

From the googles:

"the requirements for an IRS is equal length swing arms/ drive axles, that means the diffy has to be mounted on the centerline, but due to construction, the pinion is off to the passenger side by about a inch or so, so to keep driveshaft angles correct and not too much offset at high RPM's, the rest of the drive train is mounted a inch or so to the right also....."

HardDrive 02-21-2014 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dantilla (Post 7923651)
When at full-throttle, yes. :D

Well played sir.

johnsjmc 02-21-2014 11:45 AM

The 73 was no whale. [/QUOTE]
Pregnant guppy then.
The 73 weighs about 500 lb more than a 1964. Listed curb is about 2960 for the 64 and 3440+ for a 73.
There was no big block available in 64 , so SBC vs SBC add about +200 more for a 73 with big block auto AC PS.etc.
Yes there were a few engines which still made some decent hp but even the LT1 with solid lifters through end of 72 was a shadow of it,s former 11:1 performance potential.
My LS5 was a good truck motor for 72 more torque than anything else .

speeder 02-21-2014 12:15 PM

This thread could have contained one response:

A C3 Corvette, in anywhere near stock condition is not much fun to drive.

Of course that is a subjective thing and someone who ha only driven 1940s cars would think that it's the tightest thing ever put on wheels. If you've driven any great European cars, even of the same era, it's a plastic pig.

swbstudios 02-21-2014 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by johnsjmc (Post 7923968)
The 73 was no whale.

Pregnant guppy then.
The 73 weighs about 500 lb more than a 1964. Listed curb is about 2960 for the 64 and 3440+ for a 73.
There was no big block available in 64 , so SBC vs SBC add about +200 more for a 73 with big block auto AC PS.etc.
Yes there were a few engines which still made some decent hp but even the LT1 with solid lifters through end of 72 was a shadow of it,s former 11:1 performance potential.
My LS5 was a good truck motor for 72 more torque than anything else .[/QUOTE]

Rather silly to compare with a C2 isn't it? Comparing to the 72 makes more sense and in that case, the weight difference is negligible. The point isn't that the lower compression engines produced superior power-they don't. That being said, the cars were still fun to drive and the lost power is easily restored for those so inclined.
I think many here on Pelican tend to base our 911 performance/driving characteristics on our modified cars. A totally stock "T" riding on original vintage rubber is hardly much of a performer. I've always believed my 911s were more "solid" in feel than my Corvettes. That doesn't necessarily mean they are better built or more reliable. As to performance, its not too difficult to find suitable Corvettes and Porsches to compare over the last fifty years. Its been an epic battle. That's why I own both.

swbstudios 02-21-2014 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 7924031)
This thread could have contained one response:

A C3 Corvette, in anywhere near stock condition is not much fun to drive.

Of course that is a subjective thing and someone who ha only driven 1940s cars would think that it's the tightest thing ever put on wheels. If you've driven any great European cars, even of the same era, it's a plastic pig.

An absolutely untrue statement. I've driven and owned nearly ALL the great European cars of the comparable era and you are incorrect.

cockerpunk 02-21-2014 12:34 PM

for the money you pay for these things, the above mention C4 ZR1 and C5 z06 are FAR FAR FAR better cars.

i have such a horrible redneck desire to own a C4 Zr1 ... i have no idea why ...

swbstudios 02-21-2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 7924076)
for the money you pay for these things, the above mention C4 ZR1 and C5 z06 are FAR FAR FAR better cars.

i have such a horrible redneck desire to own a C4 Zr1 ... i have no idea why ...

for the money, a 7500. Boxster is a FAR FAR FAR better car than a 67 911S as well.
;)

Dantilla 02-21-2014 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by swbstudios (Post 7924064)
I think many here on Pelican tend to base our 911 performance/driving characteristics on our modified cars. A totally stock "T" riding on original vintage rubber is hardly much of a performer....

+1.

After owning the '69 Vette, I was shocked at the lack of acceleration the first time I drove a 911.
Mash the throttle, and twiddle your thumbs waiting for something to happen.

I was accustomed to the V8's massive torque from idle all the way to redline.

HardDrive 02-21-2014 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 7924076)
for the money you pay for these things, the above mention C4 ZR1 and C5 z06 are FAR FAR FAR better cars.

i have such a horrible redneck desire to own a C4 Zr1 ... i have no idea why ...

Corvettes are not my 'thing', but I don't think they are redneck.

I think the last couple of iterations have addressed many of the legitimate sticking points. You can't deny is a world class sports car.

71scgc 02-23-2014 06:43 AM

I have a 1971 coupe. It is definitely NOT underpowered. 400ci 500hp, 500tq.
I was raised to worship at the Corvette and Porsche altars. My father was a very successful club racer in the late '50s-early '60s. Ran a '58 fuelie to 1960 Texas region SCCA championship.
C-3 'vette is still one of the dead sexiest cars ever designed.
Sure, a C-5 or C-6 will run circles around most C-3s.
My '71 looks better standing still than any C-6 at 180mph+
See for yourself:
http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/...psb876a43f.jpg
http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/...pseda8db00.jpg
Trust me, my '82sc receives very little love on the Corvette Forum. I don't understand the odd dynamic between the two, the polarity between the owners of either. I love them both, but they're very different cars, one brutal, one finessed.
BTW, my '71 handles very well, but it took work and $$.

Carter

HardDrive 02-23-2014 06:47 AM

Beautiful machine!

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Originally Posted by 71scgc (Post 7926579)
I have a 1971 coupe. It is definitely NOT underpowered. 400ci 500hp, 500tq.
I was raised to worship at the Corvette and Porsche altars. My father was a very successful club racer in the late '50s-early '60s. Ran a '58 fuelie to 1960 Texas region SCCA championship.
C-3 'vette is still one of the dead sexiest cars ever designed.
Sure, a C-5 or C-6 will run circles around most C-3s.
My '71 looks better standing still than any C-6 at 180mph+
See for yourself:
http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/...psb876a43f.jpg
http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/...pseda8db00.jpg
Trust me, my '82sc receives very little love on the Corvette Forum. I don't understand the odd dynamic between the two, the polarity between the owners of either. I love them both, but they're very different cars, one brutal, one finessed.
BTW, my '71 handles very well, but it took work and $$.

Carter


71scgc 02-26-2014 06:51 AM

Thanks HardDrive!!

speeder 02-26-2014 07:37 AM

Yes it is. The color, the year-specific touches like the grille and gill treatment, the stock condition, it's gorgeous. I think that it's easy to muck one of those up with anything that cheapens the look.

And just to be clear: I think that C3 'vettes are cool. It was the new Corvette when I was 9-24 years old. I used to go into the Chevy dealer in my neighborhood and drool all over them. I also have a memory of getting a ride in a 427 4-speed as a child and getting a physics lesson. I just think that if someone used to driving modern cars in the present time jumped into one today, they might find it lacking in refinement.

71scgc 02-27-2014 06:07 AM

Glad y'all like the car. The color is called Steel Cities Grey. Used only in '71 and '72. Around 1500 cars done each year(hence the codename 71scgc). The pics were taken shortly after I first got it. I've spent a great deal of $$ on this car. Haven't decided if I'm gonna do the paint and body yet. Patina is in, and I can save $10,000+. It'll probably still end up cheaper than this '82 sc will.
Carter

Speeder, I think we all like the cars we grew up looking at. I love C3 'vettes. They weren't Corvettes to my Pop. "Vettes for him ended in 1967.
Deep inside, I'm a Mopar guy.


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