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sc_rufctr 02-16-2014 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by stuartj (Post 7914001)
Are you serious?

Yes.

Google road rage advice. You may be surprised what the police (Aus) say about it.

First thing... Don't get out of your car.

ZOO 02-16-2014 06:10 AM

A universal "my bad" hand sign would help. Of course, I am Canadian so no one would ever have two hands on the wheel. Ever.

widgeon13 02-16-2014 06:14 AM

This thread sort of pisses me off. Why can't someone just relate a life event without being called an arse. Shouldn't it just suffice to say you disagree and let it go at that but no, there has to be name calling. Pretty stupid in my book and also very juvenile behavior.

stuartj 02-16-2014 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 7914057)
Yes.

Google road rage advice. You may be surprised what the police (Aus) say about it.

First thing... Don't get out of your car.

A little while back a woman on the school run overtook me in her Cruiser (over a speed hump) in my quiet (40kmh) residential street. When I pulled up behind her 200 meters later at the stop sign queue, I got out, tapped on her window and pointed out to her, politely, that while she may be late getting her kids to school, my kids lived in this street, could she please not drive like that.

So, should I have pulled my gun, or should she have pulled hers?

sc_rufctr 02-16-2014 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by stuartj (Post 7914094)
A little while back a woman on the school run overtook me in her Cruiser (over a speed hump) in my quiet (40kmh) residential street. When I pulled up behind her 200 meters later at the top sign queue, I got out, tapped on her window and pointed out to her, politely, that while she may be late getting her kids to school, my kids lived in this street, could she please not drive like that.

So, should I have pulled my gun, or should she have pulled hers?

You should not have got out of your car and confronted her like that.

What you should have done is taken down her licence number and reported her for speeding to the police. Let them handle it.

Mike80911 02-16-2014 06:24 AM

I think the other driver was lucky that he ran into a responsible person who simply showed that he was prepared to defend himself if the confrontation escalated. Some others would have just pulled the trigger when approached. I tell my children all of the time, when they are behind the wheel avoid any confrontations with other drivers and never get out of your car. You never know who you are getting involved with. I see nothing wrong with what you did he was looking for a fight and not an apology.

Rick V 02-16-2014 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by stuartj (Post 7914094)
A little while back a woman on the school run overtook me in her Cruiser (over a speed hump) in my quiet (40kmh) residential street. When I pulled up behind her 200 meters later at the stop sign queue, I got out, tapped on her window and pointed out to her, politely, that while she may be late getting her kids to school, my kids lived in this street, could she please not drive like that.

So, should I have pulled my gun, or should she have pulled hers?

Was there a confrontation of anger before you stopped? If there was and you ended up looking at the wrong end of a gun you would have deserved it.
Your intentions are unknown to her.

stuartj 02-16-2014 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 7914102)
You should not have got out of your car and confronted her like that.

What you should have done is taken down her licence number and reported her for speeding to the police. Let them handle it.

Well I believe that's the culture of submission nynor referred to. No police required. She wasn't a bad person, she was just doing a dumb thing.

Like the OP (as one may interpret his story). Chop someone up, then pull a gun instead of manning up and acknowledging he was (in the eyes of the other party) driving with his heads up his arse.

sc_rufctr 02-16-2014 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by stuartj (Post 7914121)
Well I believe that's the culture of submission nynor referred to. No police required. She wasn't a bad person, she was just doing a dumb thing.

Like the OP (as one may interpret his story). Chop someone up, then pull a gun instead of manning up and acknowledging he was (in the eyes of the other party) driving with his heads up his arse.

Do you realise your "chat" to this women probably had zero effect?

HardDrive 02-16-2014 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by stuartj (Post 7913367)
You pulled out in front of truck travelling at speed on four lane carriageway and caused him to have to avoid you in your Honda. At best, this is really bad, head up arse driving, at very worst, fatal. I wonder if youve ever driven a heavy vehicle. Your .45 wouldn't have saved you. Don't bring a gun to a truck fight.

Then, instead of accepting the responsibility for what he clearly thought was your reckless stupidity and taking the opportunity to get out the car and apologise to the driver like a man, you produce a gun.

What a hero.

Wow. That is some odd, muddled thinking in action.

HardDrive 02-16-2014 06:38 AM

Oh God.....you're a Brit, aren't you?

stuartj 02-16-2014 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 7914133)
Do you realise your "chat" to this women probably had zero effect?

My chats with women always have an effect, dollface.

stuartj 02-16-2014 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 7914136)
Wow. That is some odd, muddled thinking in action.

Whereas producing a gun is just plain common sense.

Baz 02-16-2014 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by stuartj (Post 7914121)
---snip---No police required. She wasn't a bad person, she was just doing a dumb thing. ---snip---

Informing law enforcement about a breach in public safety has nothing to do with attacking anyone.

It's their job to enforce - not ours.

It's called protocol.

The analogy is if you hire someone to get rid of the rats in your attic. You see a rat you call that company up and let them know "Hey - I just saw a rat." You don't go up to the rat. You call the "Rat Busters".

Baz 02-16-2014 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by stuartj (Post 7914148)
Whereas producing a gun is just plain common sense.

Common sense maybe - definitely self-defense.

Tobra 02-16-2014 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 7913230)
No input other than I wouldn't be posting on the web.

^verdat^
Quote:

Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 7913500)
Don't you miss the days when all you needed for self defense was a good tight fist?

I do, but that was when I was a little kid

The stomp on the instep is good too. Gets inside attack where you can throw them, and they won't chase if they can't run;)

stuartj 02-16-2014 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 7914151)
Informing law enforcement about a breach in public safety has nothing to do with attacking anyone.

It's their job to enforce - not ours.

It's called protocol.

The analogy is if you hire someone to get rid of the rats in your attic. You see a rat you call that company up and let them know "Hey - I just saw a rat." You don't go up to the rat. You call the "Rat Busters".

I didn't attack her. I didn't enforce. I asked her politely, one citizen, one parent, to another, to reconsider her driving behaviour. No gun required.

Civic duty, really.

sc_rufctr 02-16-2014 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by stuartj (Post 7914144)
My chats with women always have an effect, dollface.

Dollface? :confused:

dondarnell 02-16-2014 07:00 AM

I'm betting that Mr. Dunn is wishing that he had handled four unruly teens differently. Ordinary persons have no business engaging in deadly force, or even the threat of deadly force. Things could have gone differently in this case, with somebody dead, and the other in prison.

You pull a gun on me and I will assume you are going to use it, so I am going to take it from you and beat you with it and then I am going to sue you. Promise.

ted 02-16-2014 07:06 AM

It's kinda funny to me. ;)

Driver shows bad judgment handling his car with poor merging onto the freeway.
Then you see same driver with questionable judgment now has a gun too?
Do you drive the same with or without your gun? :(

What if you stayed in your car and endure the guy yelling until the light changed.
While at the same time you shoot him in the head with your cellphone video...
just knowing he is being recorded might help to not escalate the confrontation.
Maybe a cop might be interested in the video evidence as proof of road rage?

I don't pick fights with anyone on the road, you can't tell who is driving around with a gun in his lap.


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