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Baz 04-05-2014 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by intakexhaust (Post 7999472)
Twenty -O- two's - check
Nine fourteens - check
Datsun Five tens - check

but Baz, a Volvo 140???? Give me a Fiat 124 before a Volvo - LOL

Ha....actually Zavo the 145 is my cup of tea....

Put a couple of SU's on her - with the bucket seats and stick you're good to go! :cool:

speeder 04-05-2014 10:54 AM

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<div style="font-style:italic">so my wife says, "well, its your money but I'd rather you buy another 911 so we can go to the track.".</div>
</div>Sounds like an excuse to meet Jack Olsen.
Hahaha.

RANDY P 04-05-2014 12:01 PM

buy it, drive it, then flip it when you're bored.

You probably wouldn't lose on it.

rjp

RWebb 04-05-2014 01:24 PM

Alfa GTV...

dafischer 04-05-2014 01:35 PM

You won't find a GTV for 5k. At least not one that looks like it was driven over from Italy.

RWebb 04-05-2014 01:36 PM

but as we know from the other thread, a 2002 will blow up and the GTV won't

scottmandue 04-05-2014 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 7998935)
so my wife says, "well, its your money but I'd rather you buy another 911 so we can go to the track."

I won at the spouse lottery...

Now where is that craigslist link...

Selling motorcycle because...

Deschodt 04-05-2014 01:49 PM

How did I miss this thread... Just be aware of the slippery slope...

I did exactly what you did, I bought a roundie with a cracked dash and a bit of rust (in my case a fender, around the trunk trim, and some around the pedal box if I recall). Bear in mind the trim holes all around the car are a superb conduit for water and developing rust. I overpaid a little but in FL rounds are RARE. FFWD 7 years and I'm totally upside down for a non-tii 2002:
We started with a new trunk lid and fender repair (more rust inside of course). Then came Rota Wheels (minilite look alike), and some suspension changes to match. Then the carb secondary was such a pain to get to work that we fuel injected it with bits of a 318 and a DTA computer. That turned it from a dog to a scorcher (same as Tii but more reliable). And since we had a donor 318 included in the purchase, added rear brakes from that car, a 5 speed tranny (must have on freeway), redid the exhaust, a tropical radiator and thermostat, bypassed the heater box (was stuck on and useless in FL), some door panel work, carpet, and recently $2000 or so of front end bushings, tie rods, bearings, an M3 Diff with LSD, Recaros, you name it - but it retains a stock look... I now have $20000 in that car and honestly it could use paint. Ouch. But my, is it fun !!!

terrible picture, still got ride height issues (although Uhaul boxes seem to be Inka orange too)

http://www.erikaslist.com/pictures/IMG_0352.jpg

By early 911 standards, that's nothing. By 2002FAQ forum standards where people supposedly "find" superb roundies for $500 all day, it's crazy. Don't care, I love that car.

I would put it smack between a 912 and 911, driving wise. The biggest difference with a Porsche though is people's reaction to it. Could be because it's orange, but people practically kill themselves to catch up with me in traffic and give it a thumbs up or comment how they used to have one... It's a feel good car for sure. It's also super practical with tons of headroom, lots of backseat for my kids (who love it for school pickup), a trunk big enough to fit the body of your mother in law (if still alive the gas fumes will soon take care of that), it's dead reliable and with that LSD it's a hoot to drive on greasy roads.

I highly recommend getting a 2002 before the secret is out more than it already is. I love that little thing and IMO it's not gonna stay cheap long. On the Alfa GTV, yes, I'd love one of them too ;-)
I love how my exact car is featured on that cool 2 series ad from the Super Bowl ! (actually it's Bobby Rahal's car)

very cool video here:

http://youtu.be/nXSPQCl732M

nostatic 04-05-2014 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 7999742)
Now where is that craigslist link...

Selling motorcycle because...

no way - my wife loves the GS way more than going to the track...

futuresoptions 04-05-2014 03:42 PM

Todd, don't you think it would be so much cooler to pull up to a gig in a P1800?

scottmandue 04-05-2014 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 7999747)
no way - my wife loves the GS way more than going to the track...

The craigslist ad:
Selling my motorcycle because "do whatever the f*** you want" doesn't mean what I thought it did.
My paraphrase...

:D

Deschodt 04-05-2014 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by futuresoptions (Post 7999848)
Todd, don't you think it would be so much cooler to pull up to a gig in a P1800?


The P1800 is pretty but nobody ever accused it of being fun to drive :-(

scottmandue 04-05-2014 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 7999859)
The P1800 is pretty but nobody ever accused it of being fun to drive :-(

Not just yeah but he11 yeah, I do love the way the P1800 looks but pretty sure a 2002 will beat it out in the fun to drive arena every time.

I also would bet that $5K 2002 will turn into a $20K project... not that there is anything wrong with that. ;)

Deschodt 04-05-2014 04:28 PM

another 2002 question
 
I feel guilty saying this as the owner of a recently restored 72 911T but I think my 2002 is more *fun* at city speeds, ergo most of the time unless you live near a canyon road. The 911 is a faster car of course but that 2002 with mild engine work feels like a mini M3, or a go-kart, so tossable, eager to wag it's tail without much skill required to keep it on the road. Get one, but buy the best body you can afford. And preferably a roundie for future value. Mechanicals are dirt cheap by Porsche standards, body work isn't :-)

nostatic 04-05-2014 05:24 PM

Some bondo and a fresh coat of orange paint and I'd be good to go.

Chocaholic 04-05-2014 06:15 PM

Half the price and a tii to boot. Did someone say "project"?

1972 BMW 2002 tii

Shaun @ Tru6 04-06-2014 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 8000049)
Half the price and a tii to boot. Did someone say "project"?

1972 BMW 2002 tii

this looks like the longhood that was going for $4,000 3 years ago; the same car is now going for $12,000 or even $20,000 I've seen.

As a tii, I'm surprised it's so low.

Seahawk 04-06-2014 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 7999910)
...but I think my 2002 is more *fun* at city speeds, ergo most of the time unless you live near a canyon road. Get one, but buy the best body you can afford. And preferably a roundie for future value. Mechanicals are dirt cheap by Porsche standards, body work isn't :-)

I agree. I loved my Tii, especially in the toss-ability profile. The main problem for me is the four speed. At highway speeds it is monotonous to the point of distraction. I drove my 2002Tii across the country four times: Different era:cool:

I would have scooped up the car Todd posted but it looks too original for what I have in mind for a 2002. I really don't want, as I wrote Todd, to sully a clean(er) car with my modifications.

Hope someone gets it!

futuresoptions 04-06-2014 11:08 AM

Loved my 2002 eventhough it was a dog with a slush box. I just can't see paying that kind of coin on something like that unless you really had a love affair with the 2002 or something... Would probably be better to start with a ground up restoration considering the condition and work needed.

I would think it over... There are a lot of great cars to be had in that price range... heck the 8k you're talking about to start with would get you a very decent XK8 convertible, Vette, etc... If you're talking reliability and performance, 8k can still get you a fairly clean 944 with low mileage. Performance and grocery room...

intakexhaust 04-06-2014 11:56 AM

Years ago, my brothers and I had a little fleet of them. What a hoot! Good memories of the BMWCCA days and the 2002. Then when the 320i came along, everyone was goo-goo eyed over them but what a POS! That was the Cheby Vega version for BMW.

intakexhaust 04-06-2014 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 7998910)
I haven't seen any roundies for under $10K unless they were rough like this one. But admittedly I haven't looked that hard...

There's others with less miles but this one looks straight and rust-free. Wouldn't take much to make it a choice ride.

BMW 2002 E 10 | eBay

Seats are easy to find but everyone of them has the horsehair and foam deteriorated. Not all of the advertised reproduction vinyl coverings are correct so that might be the worst of redoing seats.

Even with the mileage, mechanicals are no biggie.

sammyg2 04-06-2014 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 7998935)
so my wife says, "well, its your money but I'd rather you buy another 911 so we can go to the track."

I won at the spouse lottery...

I hear long hoods are very affordable these days ............

sammyg2 04-06-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 7999024)
Those cars are going to be worth twice as much in the very near future. Just like early 911's and 356's.........you cannot go wrong.

Those cars are 401K's!!!!!!!!

I wonder if that is the factory color?

A PPI would be helpful but I bought my 356 without one nor did I even talk to the seller - I just pushed the button!

Something to think about........snooze and you lose.... ;)

LOL how do you make a small fortune investing in cars?
Start with a large fortune.

sammyg2 04-06-2014 01:46 PM

Here's a bmw 2002 for under $5k

2002 BMW R1150RT with ABS Brakes



serial, here's a 69 in eagle rock fer $3500, needs some work.
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/4406428961.html

salvaged title, $4k
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/4376916083.html

whoever decided flat black was a real color should be slapped.

911dean 04-06-2014 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 8001024)
Here's a bmw 2002 for under $5k

2002 BMW R1150RT with ABS Brakes



serial, here's a 69 in eagle rock fer $3500, needs some work.
1969 Bmw 2002

salvaged title, $4k
1968 BMW 1602, 1600, 2002 Project

whoever decided flat black was a real color should be slapped.

The original car isn't looking too bad at 5k, compared to these.

JJ 911SC 04-06-2014 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 8001021)
LOL how do you make a small fortune investing in cars?
Start with a large fortune.

Definitely Funny :D

nostatic 04-07-2014 09:00 AM

I have decided that a project is that last thing I need right now (other than myself), so if anyone wants the contact info for the seller, let me know. Very nice guy, and there is a good local shop that can do a PPI.


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