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livi 04-23-2014 06:20 AM

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Gogar 04-23-2014 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 8029644)
Wouldn't a pre-nup help ensure the union really is about love instead of what the ex may end up with after divorce court? Seems to me, if a woman knows she'll walk with only what she brought to the marriage or half of what was acquired during the marriage, she'd be less likely to only go after someone with assets and less likely to give before really trying to work things out.


There is merit to this.


Imagine for a moment that you, the MAN, weren't the bread-winner. Would you sign a pre-nup to prove to your future wife you wanted her, and not a bunch of money?

Doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'll be fine.

sc_rufctr 04-23-2014 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 8029744)
There is merit to this.


Imagine for a moment that you, the MAN, weren't the bread-winner. Would you sign a pre-nup to prove to your future wife you wanted her, and not a bunch of money?

Doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'll be fine.

I'd be fine with it also but most women would be offended that you even asked IMO.

I remember an episode of Sex in the City. They were actually talking about exactly how much her time was worth to her perspective husband.
They threw some figures around and from memory she wanted $500,000 if the marriage lasted less than 5 years.

I know it's only TV but a lot of women watched that show.

Also... That alimony thing must be a huge pain in the butt for you guys.

GWN7 04-23-2014 07:15 AM

Pre-nups are wonderful things except they mean nothing in a divorce. You can write anything you want in them but what determines how things are divided is what the law says where you live.

And if there are kids involved a per-nup really means nothing.

BE911SC 04-23-2014 07:49 AM

Didn't Marla Maples angrily throw Donald Trump's engagement ring back at him (loudly, and across a hotel lobby I think) because he said no pre-nup, no marriage?

Paul McCartney was urged by many to have some sort of legal protection for his estate before marrying that one-legged homeless woman. Paul, ever the optimist, said no, not necessary. I think that error cost him at least 50 million dollars.

Tiger Woods. Like him or not, he blundered into marriage with Ellen Nordegren, she popped the required two babies, and then slammed her legs together. Tiger started looking elsewhere and it made Ellen 100 million dollars richer. I think they did have a pre-nup.

Trump has said (in an interview with CNBC's "money honey") that a pre-nup is "essential." I suppose he sees it as being smarter to have a pre-nup and pay less to defend it (her lawyers attacking it/his defending it) than to not have one at all and have to pay millions more.

Oh, and Mick Jagger's recent girlfriend. Fashion designer, I think, who was 5-6 million in debt. Mick wouldn't marry her (and pay off her debt) so she committed suicide.

Found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_divorces

Rot 911 04-23-2014 08:05 AM

I almost hate to weigh in on this, being one of those blood sucking, scum bag attorneys. I've drafted and defended several pre-nups. They really are a useful tool for an individual in situations where the individual is older, may have children from another marriage and want to insure the wealth they created prior to the marriage is preserved for their children. There are several other reasons for a pre-nup, but that is the one I have dealt with most often.

Baz 04-23-2014 09:03 AM

Kurt makes a valid point.

I will also add that to anyone would opposes a pre-nup....they should be reminded it's a moot point............................................. ..................until such time as the relationship falls apart.

So why, in theory, would anyone be opposed to one?

We all know who would oppose it and why.....I'm just stating it as an advisor would state it.

sc_rufctr 04-23-2014 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rot 911 (Post 8029914)
I almost hate to weigh in on this, being one of those blood sucking, scum bag attorneys. I've drafted and defended several pre-nups. They really are a useful tool for an individual in situations where the individual is older, may have children from another marriage and want to insure the wealth they created prior to the marriage is preserved for their children. There are several other reasons for a pre-nup, but that is the one I have dealt with most often.

What about a Family Trust? Is that an option in the US?

Hydrocket 04-23-2014 01:55 PM

I did a pre-nuptial. As part of the process of making it water tights I included a small interview on video of each of us with our lawyers describing exactly what we were doing, why we were doing it, consequences, etc.

Pre-Nupt + Video-Nupt. I'm sure somehow, some way they could try to over turn it...but I don't think it would be easy or cheap.

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