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slodave 05-09-2014 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 8056764)
Starting your own company is not what you do because you're bored or want a change of pace. It's really hard work. It's something you do because you have a burning need and desire to do it. You'd rather try and fail than keep working for the same miserable s.o.b. any longer. Or you have a need to see your vision in practice, and your current job does not allow enough freedom to do that. It's a burning passion, not a hobby.

I agree. :) Great way of putting it.

wdfifteen 05-10-2014 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr (Post 8056731)
wdfifteen, do you mind if I PM you as I'd like to know more about how to get involved with entrepreneurial projects as this really appeals to me, I would miss this but would try to bring the fun with me

PM away.
I never had a firm plan for it, I just kept my eyes open for things that I could do that would be fun and make money for me. I developed a core publishing business with a manager that I trust so I'm not tied to it, but it brings in a reliable six figures. I get royalties from projects I started 25 years ago and that helps keep the inflow steady. From there I publish books, write books, photograph books, remodel houses and commercial buildings, design and plant landscapes and native prairies, restore cars and trucks. I've traveled all over Europe and Mexico taking photos, both on spec and on contract, and tons of little things. Vanity publishing is my current venture. I got into each project because I first had an interest in the subject, learned all I could about it, and they started selling my expertise to others who wanted it. Currently thinking about how I can profit with my new video cam quad copter.
It is not a life for anyone who likes order, because I can start the day thinking I'm going to go shoot pictures of something and find the weather is bad, drop down to plan B to finishing up writing an article, but get a call from a tenant that the water heater needs my attention. Every day is an adventure.

Bill Douglas 05-10-2014 11:50 AM

Sounds good to me Patrick.

Captain Ahab Jr 09-24-2015 01:55 PM

After all this time I thought the polite thing to do was to give an update on this....

My previous employee 'working for the man' contract finished this summer and since then I've been keeping myself busy with some hard, manual labour (great way to clear your head) in the garden while serving out my end of contract anti-competition lock out clause to the letter. I have too much respect for my old company, work colleagues and for myself to do anything sneaky.

I've been so busy in my garden and not been off the reservation much my job for next week was to put into motion the processes for registering my company, talking to legal and accountants etc. Hell I haven't even found time or the need to buy myself a new cell phone :rolleyes:

I have deliberately not done any networking or made any approaches to find my first contract or consultancy role as I thought the best way to see what new opportunities are out there was to carpet bomb all my contacts and the companies I'd like to work for in one short, concentrated burst of emails to see what response I get back. I had planned to do this the 1st of next month which would be my first day of freedom.

As motorsport is a small world over the last few months I've bumped into a few old work colleagues who have asked me what I'm doing next and I've casually mentioned my plans of doing my own thing so I'm a little astonished and pleasantly surprised as how today has panned out.

Today I had my first meeting since deciding to go it alone, a lunchtime meeting to discuss a small project, basically to see a friend out who asked me for my help with an engineering challenge he and one of his client were trying to fix. I've offered my help as it looks like a suitably hard challenge which involves a GT race car and a multi-national company developing a new automotive design concept. Won't put much food on the table but its always I nice feeling to help a friend out and fingers crossed it could hopefully lead on to bigger things in the future

When I got back home in the afternoon I had an email confirming an interview next Tues. for a senior design contract role on a car project ????? with a world respected high performance engineering company specialising in designing and manufacturing cars for GT, touring car, rally, sports prototype cars.

Supper time a good friend working for another advanced automotive engineering company called up and offered me a design contract to help him design a new racing car for one of their clients. Got a meeting next Mon. so I can find out more to see if I want to get involved or not.

Then later this evening a another old work colleague phoned up from Germany after somehow finding out my home tel. no. asking for my help to design out some weight on his teams DTM race car.

On top of this I'm also still waiting to hear back after a telephone interview I had with a F1 engine manufacturer a few weeks ago for a very interesting contract position within their design group

Nothing signed yet and I know it is early days but it is looking like I may have made the right decision to stop working for the man. Thank you all for the advice, very much appreciated and your words helped give me the push I needed.

craigster59 09-24-2015 02:17 PM

Congratulations, sounds like things are popping. But you might want to slow your roll there Playboy, don't spread yourself too thin too quickly! :)

Captain Ahab Jr 09-24-2015 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 8808939)
Congratulations, sounds like things are popping. But you might want to slow your roll there Playboy, don't spread yourself too thin too quickly! :)

100% right brother

There is only me, no plans to spread myself too thin, I've never had a problem saying no, better to do one job well than many badly as the bad is remembered long after the good.

If I'm lucky enough to have to choose between more than one it will be a quick and decisive decision as I'm itching to get back in the game.

lowyder993s 09-24-2015 05:19 PM

Hoping you get a chance to come to this side of the pond...Should the weather chase you out of the garden; I'm pretty sure I have some gear-sets you can use for your mock up! :)

BEST OF LUCK!

wdfifteen 09-24-2015 05:47 PM

Thanks for the update. Good luck on your future ventures! Please keep us apprised.

VincentVega 09-24-2015 07:22 PM

Thanks for the update. Great news, keep at it. Setting your own course is a great thing, best of luck.

look 171 09-24-2015 09:07 PM

I don't know too much about working for someone (on the payroll) for a long period of time. I have been on my own since about the age of 20 in the construction related industry. After college, I was a high school shop teacher for several years but can't stand the people, some of the teachers and admin. Kids will be kids so that was fine. I don't think I can ever work for someone else again. Its been more then 25 years of driving myself into the ground. There is no boss to bail me out when the crap hits the fan. I am it and I take it in the shorts and make it work somehow. My father was a small business owner, custom jeweler for many years, so lots of that rub off on me, he somehow made it work.

The one other thing is your age. How much longer do you want to chase jobs to the point where you no longer has to chase them. Its really nice to know they are looking for you and that work is lined up so there is no worry about making the buck or payroll. The down side to that is work should never be turned down. Once that happens, news travels fast and some of these folk will not call you again unless you are established. The last question is retirement. Guys who own their business never retire. Smart ones do, dummies like me will never do it. You become selective with who you want to work for and slowly fade away. I have been thinking about retirement for a couple of years. In a few years, I will be 50. I like to work a little less after that, but I am afraid that I do not know how to do that. How much money do you have to invest into this new venture? What if it doesn't work out, do you have an exit plan and go back to work for the big man again and how much longer will that last before you have that feeling to go out and kick everyone's ass again? Age and family is a huge factor IMO.

KFC911 09-25-2015 08:57 AM

I pretty much "did my own thing" while working for "the man" before I called it quits at 48. $ don't motivate me and I'm happy as can be seven years later.

I decided corporate IT sucks after 25 years of it....
I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more SmileWavy

Captain Ahab Jr 02-04-2016 02:49 PM

If anyone reading this is thinking of going it alone then after 4 months in of jumping in with both feet I would say go for it, you may wish you did it earlier.

I decided when I started not to chase the money but go for the more interesting jobs that would stretch my abilities, challenge me and allow me to up my game. Also maybe give a little bit of money back so as to have a bit more of a life not revolving around long work hours.

So far this approach seems to have sort of worked out ok as I'm already fully booked up for 2016 to work on some interesting projects.

At the moment busy working on a weight saving and performance adding mission with a single seater racing car. Then in a few months time while still working for the same company I'll be switching projects to do more of the the same on a high performance limited production road car.

It's not F1 but after 18yrs of it I'm in no mad rush to jump back into the game even when a local team and one of my old haunts announced today they need another 200 people in their quest to get back to the top.

The bit that hasn't worked out as I planned is doing less hours, quite the opposite has happened, 55 hours in a 5 day week since I started is the new normal and I don't see it backing off anytime soon.

Got no complaints as I'm enjoying what I'm doing, the people I work with and the company employing me is easily one of the best I've worked for.

wdfifteen 02-04-2016 06:04 PM

Thanks for the update. You sound very happy and your work sounds challenging and exciting. I'm very happy for you and wish you the greatest success.

Bill Douglas 02-04-2016 08:35 PM

All the best for the new venture. It sounds very rewarding.

onewhippedpuppy 02-05-2016 03:44 AM

Sounds like you made the right decision, congrats!

billybek 02-05-2016 04:30 AM

Why work 8 hours a day for someone else when you can work 11 for yourself?;)

Glad you are doing well and satisfied with your decision.

berettafan 02-05-2016 04:46 AM

now you just need to find the perspective required to be in charge of your job and not the reverse.

the consultant comment earlier in the thread is gold.

VincentVega 02-05-2016 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr (Post 8984843)

It's not F1 but after 18yrs of it I'm in no mad rush to jump back into the game even when a local team and one of my old haunts announced today they need another 200 people in their quest to get back to the top.

Good luck. As someone that thinks sweeping the floor in an F1 shop would be cool I'm sure its not easy. Great job making a change and scratching the itch, now you know what you've wondered for some time.

All the best

Captain Ahab Jr 07-16-2016 03:50 PM

Thanks for positive comments gents, much appreciated, I'm now 9 months in and still no regrets or 2nd thoughts.

Someone the other day asked me what its like working for myself and the best way I could describe it was...

You are sat in the permanent employee mini-bus which is driving along a freeway, some people are busy working away, some are just gazing out the window and some are asleep in the back. In a moment of madness I kicked the back door open jumped out so I'm all alone and now have to run as fast as I can so I don't fall flat on my face while trying to keep up alongside :D

I also think I'm working harder than I have ever done as it's my name above my companies name which is a reflection of me rather than me being just another face in a crowd working for a company

I'm used to working at a relentless pace, it's what I enjoy and gets me out of bed in the morning, race dates don't move so you find ways of getting the work done in time. My working week is still very long but I still want to go to work every morning so count myself lucky.

However the last few weeks have been mentally quite tiring. Instead of finishing one project and then moving over to the next my working week and sometimes days are split 50:50 between design work on a race car project and a high performance road car project using 2 different CAD software packages one of which I last used 8 years ago :confused:

Never had a problem saying 'whoa slow down there tiger I'm not keeping up with everything' when I think I'm pushing beyond my limit. Yesterday I had to say something as on my way home the night before I couldn't phone home as I'd run out of RAM and couldn't remember my home tel. no. :eek: I'm under no great stress just thought I was close to my limit of being empty in the brain department which will for sure compromise the quality of my work. Juggling two highest priorities set by two different people never works well for long.

Still not done any networking/advertising yet, only bought a cell phone a few weeks ago (lived without one for the last year which is very liberating) and only just created a company email account today but it hasn't stopped potential work offers.

I've been quite humbled by the type of companies asking if I'm interested in working for them, I've had approaches from an F1 engine manufacturer, an F1 team setting up a technology offshoot company to build a hyper-car, a very cool road car engine project and a company making modern retrofit products for the classic car market.

I'm happy where I am and have too much work to think about moving or taking on more work so I accepted a 6 month contract extension which will take me up to the end of Dec. After that I have no idea what I'll be doing which I find both exciting and scary in equal measure.

Bill Douglas 07-16-2016 04:24 PM

Well done! Sounds great.


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