A couple of thoughts. Though it has been a few years since I was in Rio, I remember it as a more curvy physical ideal (as opposed to waif-like models) with specific attention paid to how one looked walking into the water - hence the amazing bikinis that Rio is so well known for. So this is disappointing to hear if it has been super-sized.

That being said, I try to avoid commentary about obese people because a) my father obsesses about it and talks about it all the time; and b) my wife is not blessed with my metabolism (though she is fiercely disciplined about intake and exercise, unlike me).

But holy cow, whenever I travel (and especially at US domestic airports) I'm mouth agape at how large my species is becoming - and how people wear clothing ultimately inappropriate for their body types. BTW, some of the most egregious stuff is in the UK with wasted young, fat girls. Seriously, do you own a mirror?

As the father of a daughter, I like that women are comfortable with their body type, and don't starve themselves to reach an unrealistic ideal that they can't achieve. But I think the pendulum, like so much belly fat hanging over the fanny pack strap, has swung too far.

I do blame high fructose corn syrup (it is in everything, I can barely read ingredient labels anymore) and a general lack of fitness. The one gallon cup that people fill with Coke at the convenience store is the cigarette of the 21st century. Mad Men in 2050 will be a story about fast food workers and 7-11 clerks watching small whales walk into stores swilling Cokes and eating low-fat, high-sugar snacks.

There's an interesting analysis out about how misled we were with the low-fat diet to combat heart disease, and ultimately how this resulted in the substitution of carbohydrates to keep food appealing.

Moderation in all things folks. And please, wear a shirt that covers all that flesh.

Denis, the website says they have it for grownups now too.

Hugh's tax dollars at work
https://www.presidentschallenge.org/participate/index.shtml

My kids go to Catholic school but they follow most of the public school standards. There are zero fitness standards that I am aware of. For public schools, just follow the money. Funding is partially dependent on standardized test scores, hence why you see so much focus on "teaching to the test". They are happy to have a school of fat kids if they test well.:p

"WE" are hardwired to "EAT" and by default most humans are lazy.

So if there's food in front of us we "EAT" and there are plenty of big companies that know these two things and act accordingly.

The "drive through" for instance. You don't even need to get out of you car to stuff your face on cheap fast food.

There's no great mystery to obesity. It's just diet and exercise but somehow that escapes most fat people.
What really bothers me is seeing attractive women age and they're only going one way on the scales.

I hope I don't sound shallow but fat girls just don't do it for me. That and crooked big toes. :(

I've seen many lovely, fit, nicely dressed women in London. It must be the walking culture there because the food is dreadful....oh...maybe that's it.

Dear Scott, please don't take offense.

Could be!

There were a lot of malnourished people back in the day & the govt started to fortify food back in the 50s. Back then the rich were fat. Now we're all too "fortified" and the rich are the ones who pay for better food and gym memberships. The govt now pays for gastric bypasses and hip replacements to get people to lose weight. Crazy.

Could be what Mr Jim?

Its not just people in our generation. Notice the huge amount of overweight teenagers these days? It is disturbing. When I was in HS, you had maybe 5 -10% of the kids that where overweight. Now I wouldn't be surprised if it was close to 40 or 50%. I place the blame on easier access to crappy fast foods, the electronic/video game/internet age and just laziness in general. Its pretty pathetic, that at 49, I can run circles, fitness and performance wise, around most of the young guys in their 20s and 30s in my firehouse. But then again I've always been health and fitness oriented since my teens.

The one good thing though is there is a resurgence in fitness lately, especially among women. But sadly I feel its just another fad that will pass.

Thanks for the EXCELLENT post there Don.

Well said!

Yours too, Vinny!

This thread is perfect WITHOUT pictures. Please keep it this way!

Overweight teenagers is one thing but when you see young people in their early 20s who a truly obese that is just wrong.

Your 20s should be some of the best years of your life! .......... Spending them "BeachBall" FAT is just not and option IMO.
Sadly for some if they fight their "hard wiring" in their brain they pay a huge price.
Anorexia and Bulimia anyone? I've seen a woman's life destroyed by Anorexia. It also caused huge pain and misery in her family and it didn't end well.

What I think we should aim for is a "healthy" weight. Two examples and they are Both HOT IMO.

This 40 something lady would work very hard to look like this and her bod screams health and fitness. How can that not be HOT?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1400372422.jpg

This lady is a bit younger so her feminine and her voluptuous body is the most alluring things about her but she doesn't look like she exercises much and I'm pretty sure she's seen a burger or two. ;)
Fast forward ten years and what do you think she'll look like?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1400372483.jpg

oops...

Huzza wuzza......Vinny would approve! (Me too!)


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And that's the point!

"We" all want love and being attractive means we're more likely to get it.

Evolution or modern life? I go with evolution every time ;)

You couldn't be more wrong if you try.

1. Government isn't just one person making all the calls, look it up and you'll be better off

2. It doesn't matter how much you exercise, if you eat crap, you'll look and feel like crap.

Can't argue with facts.

A sad day. The last time I was in Rio was 1988 and I could barely contain myself on the beaches there. It was a magnificent display of fine human form in all it's glory. Traveling fairly recently in China, France, Switzerland, Austria, and southern Germany, Americans look like a herd of elephants compared with the locals.

At 5'10/175 I am about 10lbs over my college athlete fighting weight but still look reasonably human I think. I have decided to take matters into my own hands for the rest of my life to stay in the same clothing size I was married in. Some things are simply off the table and major lifestyle adjustments are warranted.

My thoughts on intake:

* Sweetened, carbonated soft drinks are simply poisonous to humans. All of em IMO. I have already consumed more than a lifetime supply of the stuff. Diet drinks may be worse than HFCS laden ones in the way it tricks our system into craving sweets. Same goes for most packaged snack foods.

* Strive for 95% whole meats. Processed meats, burgers, hot dogs, sausage in very limited quantities.

* Avoid packaged/processed foods and stick to the outer perimeter of the grocery store.

* Whole fruits and vegetables are open and relatively unlimited if it comes in mother natures package. The more locally grown, the better.

* Whole bread and pasta with very simple ingredients that I can pronounce from specialty stores and bakeries.

* If the "mouse type" ingredients on a package contain a bunch of chemical compounds or other big words, it's not food so don't eat it.

* If I can buy it through a drive-thru window, it's not food.

* Restaurant meals- Eat half and bring home the other half.

My thoughts on daily exercise:

* Walk 2 miles in the neighborhood every day. It costs nothing and the dog likes it too.

* "Couches kill" so limit time on it.

* Regular active weekend adventures- hiking, surfing, motorsports, skiing, biking... whatever gets me moving.

This is the plan and has been in place for about two years now. I'll check back in 10 years and let you know how it is going.

My thoughts too. OK, she has a pretty face but the size of her arse and those short legs - yuck. Sure I've just been banned from UKDailyMail but every second article was about how "beautiful" she is, I won't miss that.

SC, I'll take the pink one.:). I like some curves, muscular girls are too pokey.

Rusty, if you're going to tell me that I'm wrong please don't say "look it up". That strongly suggests that you don't have anything to back up your retort. Here's what I know, school funding is tight and at least partially based on standardized test scores. That I'm aware of there are no standards tied to physical fitness that drive funding, please correct me if I'm wrong. In public schools it's all about the quest for funding, programs that aren't tied to govt money (PE, shop, home ec, etc) have been on the cut list for years. Many grade schools now only have one recess, some have none. Many extracurricular sports are now funded by donations and parents. There is no incentive for schools to have any variety of physical activity.

As for #2, BS. I know plenty of people that violate every rule in the book but make it up with exercise or genetics. All things being equal you will be more healthy if you eat healthy foods, but I know plenty of people in great shape that don't only eat organically fed organic foods from virgin animals packaged in 100% recycled products and transported to the farmer's market by horse and buggy. When I was a kid in the 1980s we had pizza, hamburgers, and chicken fried steak for school lunch. We also had two recesses, daily PE, and lots of other activities. Childhood obesity was a fraction of what it is today.

Wow

Good for you but both of them are beautiful.

Personally I'd prefer the older one but not because of the way she looks alone.
That lady would more than likely have good self esteem and has her life "sorted". "Sorted" is much more attractive to me. If they have that I can easily overlook any imperfections.

I'm sick of women expecting me to clean up their mess.

The younger one is an unknown... Who knows what choices she'll make in the future. I wish her well but young girls like that are generally high maintenance.

Excellent advice especially the stuff in bold!

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I doubt that. How can it "feel good" to be fat????

Cajun, good post. I agree with you, especially, about soft drinks, I cant think of a single reason for grown ups - or kids- to have them. Ive been told (can anyone verify?) that coke now contains 4x salt and 4x sugar (now fructose) that it did in 70s...coupled with the much large serving sizes....we see the results everywhere.

But- soda water- good old water + carbonation. Im not aware of any issue with this? It contains nothing but the water and bubbles.

Would also add...bread and pasta....not matter how natural and healthy and fresh... is not every body's friend.

We have a rule....if your grandmother wouldn't recognise it, don't eat it.

One difference is Coke from the 70s used sugar instead of HFCS which wasn't as bad. Soft drinks are one of the worst things for you, but I'll admit Coca Cola is one of my vices I find hard to give up. I like it too much.

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Agreed Stuart,

Unsweetened carbonated drinks like soda water or tonic water are not the problem. It's the sweetened ones that quietly condition us to crave more of the sweet. I should have clarified better so I edited my earlier post.

My plan is just that. My own personal effort to not grow to be as-big-as-a-house. It won't work for everybody as many are gluten intolerant or have other dietary needs. I just figure this is a lot simpler and more interesting way of life than facing type II diabetes, heart attack, stroke, etc. The funny thing is I don't really feel like I am missing anything. If I want a cheeseburger once in a while, I hit In & Out or grill one myself. As long as it's once a month instead of twice a day I am still playing within the lines.

YMMV

Once a month is great :)

About once a month I go to KFC and eat like a pig. I now understand how heroin users feel when they get their hit. I'm in bliss, the world is a beautiful place... But I stay away for the rest of the month.

If something is going to kill me prematurely I want it to be more interesting than having been eating too much junk food.

Fat is fat but women should have curves. The emaciated look that was popular in the 70s and 80s can kiss my ass. The chicks in 80s hair band videos are the perfect example, asses that are no more than an extension of their thighs and a pair of bolt ons being the only thing differentiating their bodies from those of 12 year old boys
....gross.

LOL, I should have qualified my statement with "hypothetically speaking". Don't think my wife would approve of quality time with her.:cool:

Same here. Since finding out that I have borderline high cholesterol last year I've kicked the processed foods almost entirely, which is a big deal because I suck at cooking. More natural stuff like homemade sandwiches, wraps, guacamole, etc. I'm trying to drink more light beer (moderately successful) and mix a drink for a nightcap. Haven't drank normal pop in years. I'll still go have a good meal out but it's maybe once a week. I'm very active and could probably stand to lose 10-20 lbs but I'm ok with it.

My dear old departed father used to say, "see that....lucky legs....lucky they don't snap off and go up her arse!!"

Uhum...I doubt those legs would ever snap off. She'd be very felxible and strong :eek:

LOL, London has world class cuisine, it's been years since great restaurants started appearing.

+1
You have to run at 6mph for 1 1/2 hours to burn off the calories in one Mcd's quarter pounder meal. Exercise is not THE key, it's part of the package that includes exercise food choices, and portion control.

I agree with just about everything typed here. Eat properly and exercise. That's all there is to it. It's not rocket science. Unfortunately, the culture we live in today (which is beginning to spread to the UK and Europe) emphasizes laziness, quick, easy, food in massive quantities, HUGE amounts of sugar in just about everything (look at one 12 oz. can of coke. It has about 40 grams of sugar in it. To put that in perspective, one TEASPOON of sugar is 4 grams. Think about adding 10 teaspoons of sugar to your morning coffee, because that's the same amount of sugar in one little can of coke. Now, consider that people typically buy a 32 or even 64 oz. size soft drink, and I honestly amazed that kids don't get diabetes after ONE drink. Think about having 50+ teaspoons of sugar in ONE drink.).

We are our own worst enemies.

Man, why do you guys all make fun of Coke? It's one of my vices: an ice cold Coca-Cola. Mmmmm. (Cue image of Homer Simpson thinking about doughnuts.)

I can't even remember what this thread was about... so, can we see more of the fitter, older lady please? SmileWavy

Presented for your viewing pleasure.

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:( .... Um, No thanks... I'll go to Thailand for holidays instead.

For you Yanks!

What about Cuba? Any hot babes or has "Maccas" moved in there already?

..... Cuba is on my bucket/to-do list. ;)

Ouch! Those gals look like the back side of a Greyhound bus. The end of an era. :(