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RF5BPilot 05-26-2014 12:07 PM

A down-side of Open Concept designs
 
I've generally been a fan of the newer, open concept designs or renovations to houses.

Apparently the downside is that they burn a LOT faster and have more fatalities because there are no walls to slow the fire, smoke, etc.

If you're going to do that, it might be worth investigating residential forms of ceiling sprinklers. They don't look as obvious as commercial ones and might save your family.

ckelly78z 05-26-2014 12:11 PM

Then again, there are less walls to run into on your way out if there is a fire.

island911 05-26-2014 02:37 PM

ceiling sprinklers

They really don't cost that much.

Of course, long before that, smoke detectors are cheap insurance.

dyount 05-26-2014 03:39 PM

The newer designs don't burn fast because of open space. They burn faster because of structural materials being lighter weight and foam plastics in furnishings.
My 2 cents are ...... Smoke alarms save lives and sprinklers save property. Interconnect all alarms and if retro sprinklering use sidewall heads and therefore keep piping out of attic spaces where freezing may be an issue

James Brown 05-26-2014 04:03 PM

room and content fires can happen in a concrete room. typically reaching well over 1000˚F at the ceiling making sprinklers and smoke/heat alarms mandatory. Also pick furniture that will resist fire like treated leathers and metals tile or rock flooring.

Deschodt 05-26-2014 04:11 PM

Personally I always found the drawback was hearing the damn dishwasher while watching TV ;-)

URY914 05-26-2014 04:17 PM

Are you really worried about a house fire?

look 171 05-26-2014 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 8084578)
Personally I always found the drawback was hearing the damn dishwasher while watching TV ;-)

Bosch solves your problems, or turn it up to 11.

Deschodt 05-28-2014 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 8084597)
Bosch solves your problems, or turn it up to 11.

Ironic you'd say that, it was a Bosch with lowest DB ratings (which was quieter than the old). Still annoyed me... I must pick up the dishwasher frequency or something ;-)

Baz 05-28-2014 05:28 PM

Clean fingernails = no dishwasher

:)

Flieger 05-28-2014 05:47 PM

I start the washer before I leave for work.

wdfifteen 05-28-2014 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 8084597)
Bosch solves your problems, or turn it up to 11.

+1
I can't even tell when my Bosche is running.
I could.start a small campfire and play half court basketball in my living room. I don't see how all the open space would be a problem unless you fill it with crap.

krystar 05-28-2014 09:29 PM

downside of high ceiling: big heating bill.
upside of high ceiling: lower cooling bill.

GH85Carrera 05-29-2014 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyount (Post 8084545)
The newer designs don't burn fast because of open space. They burn faster because of structural materials being lighter weight and foam plastics in furnishings.
My 2 cents are ...... Smoke alarms save lives and sprinklers save property. Interconnect all alarms and if retro sprinklering use sidewall heads and therefore keep piping out of attic spaces where freezing may be an issue

This.

Have several high quality smoke and CO detectors in the house. You can alway replace "stuff" with more stuff.

Don't buy the cheapest smoke detectors. Buy the quality ones. They are far more likely to save your life.

glewis80SC 05-29-2014 11:51 AM

Stick with quality smoke detectors and have a plan for the family when and if and practice the plan. I would not buy a home with residential sprinklers the damage from the water is always worse than the fire, they get knocked off etc. they create such a mess.
Went on one last week, guy is having work done on his very nice home worker knocked a sprinkler off no one knew how or where to shut off the water until we got there.

glewis80SC 05-29-2014 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyount (Post 8084545)
The newer designs don't burn fast because of open space. They burn faster because of structural materials being lighter weight and foam plastics in furnishings.
My 2 cents are ...... Smoke alarms save lives and sprinklers save property. Interconnect all alarms and if retro sprinklering use sidewall heads and therefore keep piping out of attic spaces where freezing may be an issue

+1...newer materials burn faster and hotter.


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