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vash 07-08-2014 10:10 AM

motion sickness.
 
not our Motion..:D

sea sickness. does the patch prescribed by a doc work?

i get it on boats. i think it is getting worse as i get older. my brother gets it BAD. i am trying to work out a 10 day tuna fishing trip. being out on the water that long could be a problem. my friend went, and he is almost a pirate. even he got sick on the ride back home. he said the boat felt like it was corkscrewing.

churn...

ideas? visit colorado for a big supply?

Bugsinrugs 07-08-2014 10:21 AM

Saltines. Lots of them

GH85Carrera 07-08-2014 10:28 AM

Yes the patch from the pharmacy is best. My wife needs them for boat rides.

widgeon13 07-08-2014 10:31 AM

I've heard seasickness is bad if you are susceptible to it. Ten days is a long to be seasick. Most likely you would wish you were dead. How about Dramamine, ever tried that. I don't get seasick or airsickness but it is debilitating.

vash 07-08-2014 10:34 AM

Dramamine knocks me out. But I think that's the idea behind it.


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Scott Douglas 07-08-2014 10:34 AM

I get seasick standing on a dock that's firmly anchored to the shore. Cracks my kids up. I haven't tried the patch but have used Dramamine which puts me to sleep.
Have fun!

allaircooled 07-08-2014 10:37 AM

I get seasick and I was in the Navy for almost 12 years! Everytime we were about to get underway I would go to the docs office the day before and get Dramamine. I would start taking it the day before we left and for only a couple of days and after that I was fine. If I forgot, I would wish I was dead for sure.

Geary 07-08-2014 10:44 AM

As a youngster, I got violently ill at sea. One fishing trip across the Molokai Channel, I dove overboard and swam to shore as soon as we were close to land.

I wouldn't chance it, Vash. Not without at least a prior 1-2 day test trip, with all the aids at your disposal .. ginger, patch, wrist buttons, etc.

vash 07-08-2014 10:57 AM

Yea. Maybe a one day salmon trip.


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Seahawk 07-08-2014 11:10 AM

I, thankfully, never suffered from motion sickness even in really big seas. The below is actually fairly calm seas:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1404842559.jpg

The keys for me were:

- Eat. Saltines were mentioned.
- Patch. Get the prescription stuff. I never needed one but they do work.
- Stay on the bridge. If possible, stay above decks. The closet I ever came to getting sick was during the monsoon season in the Indian Ocean. Huge seas, Perfect Storm seas: For days. 75% of the crew of the Frigate I was on were sick. Some guys were on IV's. I got my lawn chair out when I felt bad, sat against the hangar doors on the flight deck and tied myself in. Watched the horizon and instantly felt better.
- Go on a one day something trip before the ten day. The tuna boat is going to move, a bunch.

This is a good link: Avoiding Seasickness - Cruises - Cruise Critic

Seabear 07-08-2014 11:12 AM

I use the scopolamine patch when I go out on the ocean, or up in the Straits where there are ocean swells. It works well, leaves me with a bit of cotton mouth, but doesn't knock the crap out of me like Dramamine. I usually put it on the night before heading out and take it off on the way back to the dock.
A one day trial would be a good thing, it will tell you whether it works or not.

Cajundaddy 07-08-2014 12:15 PM

My wife gets motion sickness easily but I almost never do. Down below at a nav station can test my resolve though. From her experiences on week long ocean live aboard adventures:

The patch works best.
Bonine tabs a close second.
Ginger snaps third but surprisingly effective.
Dramamine wiped her out and made her feel worse than seasick.

deanp 07-08-2014 12:23 PM

Try the acupressure bands for your wrists. My wife gets motion sickness and found those helped. We took a trip with my sister and her family earlier in the year and my sister was not, ahem, keen on some of my backroad carving. Dramamine knocks her out, makes her feel almost as bad. She tried the wife's wristbands and it was night and day difference.

Jim Richards 07-08-2014 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 8153959)
I, thankfully, never suffered from motion sickness even in really big seas. The below is actually fairly calm seas:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1404842559.jpg

The keys for me were:

- Eat. Saltines were mentioned.
- Patch. Get the prescription stuff. I never needed one but they do work.
- Stay on the bridge. If possible, stay above decks. The closet I ever came to getting sick was during the monsoon season in the Indian Ocean. Huge seas, Perfect Storm seas: For days. 75% of the crew of the Frigate I was on were sick. Some guys were on IV's. I got my lawn chair out when I felt bad, sat against the hangar doors on the flight deck and tied myself in. Watched the horizon and instantly felt better.
- Go on a one day something trip before the ten day. The tuna boat is going to move, a bunch.

This is a good link: Avoiding Seasickness - Cruises - Cruise Critic

Ahh, the memories...

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6072/6...0c425fab_b.jpg

The only time I prayed to Ralph, the Porcelain God, was after eating a curry dish during heavy seas out in the North Atlantic. To this day I won't eat curry.

atcjorg 07-08-2014 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajundaddy (Post 8154056)
My wife gets motion sickness easily but I almost never do. Down below at a nav station can test my resolve though. From her experiences on week long ocean live aboard adventures:

The patch works best.
Bonine tabs a close second.
Ginger snaps third but surprisingly effective.
Dramamine wiped her out and made her feel worse than seasick.

11 yrs in the navy (3 WESPACS) plus I deep sea fish a couple times a year, a 10 day is a long trip those listed above work best in that order IMO, get the patch follow directions, it's a little bumpy out there right now, where is the boat going Cedros ?

allaircooled 07-08-2014 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 8153959)
I, thankfully, never suffered from motion sickness even in really big seas. The below is actually fairly calm seas:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1404842559.jpg

The keys for me were:

- Eat. Saltines were mentioned.
- Patch. Get the prescription stuff. I never needed one but they do work.
- Stay on the bridge. If possible, stay above decks. The closet I ever came to getting sick was during the monsoon season in the Indian Ocean. Huge seas, Perfect Storm seas: For days. 75% of the crew of the Frigate I was on were sick. Some guys were on IV's. I got my lawn chair out when I felt bad, sat against the hangar doors on the flight deck and tied myself in. Watched the horizon and instantly felt better.
- Go on a one day something trip before the ten day. The tuna boat is going to move, a bunch.

This is a good link: Avoiding Seasickness - Cruises - Cruise Critic

For some reason I can take it in Radar room 4, which is right above your hangar on a cruiser. Get me close to the pointy end of the ship and I was done. Instantly.

I never tried the patch but I will give that a try here when I finally go out and do some deep sea fishing. Haven't gone in awhile and am starting to get interested again.

vash 07-08-2014 01:13 PM

Seahawk. That picture should be in the army recruitment brochure. :).


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Bill Douglas 07-08-2014 02:25 PM

Patches are great.

If for some reason you want to go the "organic" way try crysallized ginger. It really works on me.

TimT 07-08-2014 03:04 PM

Quote:

Watched the horizon and instantly felt better.
That works... below decks is a recipe for producing chum...

Keeping your eyes on the horizon keeps your head moving less.... the balance system in your inner ear is more stable....no motion sickness....

I've been a boater for almost 54 years now, Dad got me a 8 or 9' Boston Whaler when I was a kid and have been offshore fishing ever since... I was told eyes on the horizon by an old salt many years ago...

biosurfer1 07-08-2014 03:34 PM

My dad went deep sea fishing once (ONCE) and he was on and around boats most of his life, just not open sea boats. He said its a good thing he didn't have his checkbook with him because he would have paid the captain anything he wanted to take him back.

He always says the craziest thing was the very first step back on the dock and he was instantly fine, like nothing ever happened...except for the memories that bubble up when ever someone mentions anything about "deep sea"

LakeCleElum 07-08-2014 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allaircooled (Post 8153909)
If I forgot, I would wish I was dead for sure.


Worked on a fishing boat in Alaska the summer I was 17.....I've always said:

The first few days, I was afraid I would die, the 3rd and 4th day, I was afraid I WOULDN'T die......

bmcuscgr94 07-08-2014 07:51 PM

I've tried all sorts of the remedies since I was a kid. I get sick when its flat and calm if I'm underway for more than half a day. I do best when we're bouncing around and there's a good breeze. Looking at the horizon is a key for me. Got the same advice as mentioned here from an old salt when I was a kid.

What worked for me was the patch (dry mouth was the side effect). I've tried the wrist bands, and Bonine or Dramamine. For the last two I learned not to take more than 1/2 a pill at a time otherwise I was so sleepy I was wasn't much help.

These boats ride like a cork, you get used to it most of the time.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1404874170.jpg

look 171 07-09-2014 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biosurfer1 (Post 8154390)
My dad went deep sea fishing once (ONCE) and he was on and around boats most of his life, just not open sea boats. He said its a good thing he didn't have his checkbook with him because he would have paid the captain anything he wanted to take him back.

He always says the craziest thing was the very first step back on the dock and he was instantly fine, like nothing ever happened...except for the memories that bubble up when ever someone mentions anything about "deep sea"

He is right, instantly. when I was a kid, I did a bit of deep sea fishing. There were days I was fine and there are others days where I would feed the fish all day long. That bastard captain ain't turning back until its the end of the day. The worst part is when the fishes aren't biting and you are just awaiting death with nothing else to throw up.

look 171 07-09-2014 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 8154079)
Ahh, the memories...

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6072/6...0c425fab_b.jpg

The only time I prayed to Ralph, the Porcelain God, was after eating a curry dish during heavy seas out in the North Atlantic. To this day I won't eat curry.

Jim, that's one heck of a roller coaster ride. Is the front 1/3 of the ship under water? I want to hurl just looking at that pic. Do you get stuck in a big storm like that for a day or more?

look 171 07-09-2014 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 8153959)
I, thankfully, never suffered from motion sickness even in really big seas. The below is actually fairly calm seas:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1404842559.jpg

The keys for me were:

- Eat. Saltines were mentioned.
- Patch. Get the prescription stuff. I never needed one but they do work.
- Stay on the bridge. If possible, stay above decks. The closet I ever came to getting sick was during the monsoon season in the Indian Ocean. Huge seas, Perfect Storm seas: For days. 75% of the crew of the Frigate I was on were sick. Some guys were on IV's. I got my lawn chair out when I felt bad, sat against the hangar doors on the flight deck and tied myself in. Watched the horizon and instantly felt better.
- Go on a one day something trip before the ten day. The tuna boat is going to move, a bunch.

This is a good link: Avoiding Seasickness - Cruises - Cruise Critic

So sailors ever fall overboard during rough seas?

Jim Richards 07-09-2014 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 8155009)
Jim, that's one heck of a roller coaster ride. Is the front 1/3 of the ship under water? I want to hurl just looking at that pic. Do you get stuck in a big storm like that for a day or more?

Yeah, those WWII-era tin-cans do a pretty good submarine imitation. The ship in that pic was in the same class of destroyers that my first ship was in. Fun ride. Up and down, side to side, rinse and repeat. :D

Seahawk 07-09-2014 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 8155010)
So sailors ever fall overboard during rough seas?

Only on Tuna Boats :cool:

They do. If you look closely at the picture I posted, the two young men are wearing float coats. The "nets" are also down since it is helo recovery time. The thing on the deck one of the men is staring at is called the Rapid Securing Device (RSD).

The helo, guided by the LSO (who stands looking up at the helo from the little shack on the left in the picture) puts a "main probe" in the RSD and the LSO then clamps two bars hydraulically around the probe.

No one is on deck during landing.

Ships routinely secure what are known as "weather decks" during big seas.

Jim's ship was not for the feint of heart.

campbellcj 07-09-2014 08:05 AM

I made myself queasy driving on Latigo Canyon a couple weeks ago. I very rarely get motion sickness and it has never, ever happened to me while I was driving. Weird.

1990C4S 07-09-2014 09:13 AM

A half a dramamine pill will probably work for you.

It's sold over the counter here, I don't believe it is in the USA. If you want some to try PM me.

cairns 07-09-2014 03:37 PM

Get the patch. I'm not the only instructor who gets sick at Shenandoah. They do work.

vash 07-16-2014 09:21 AM

Have a tuna trip pending. Out of San Diego. Jim, you up for a beer?

I'm gonna email my doc about the patch.

Thx


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ZOA NOM 07-16-2014 10:51 AM

Ahh... you guys are bringing it all back. Nothing like a tin can... I always tell the carrier guys "I flushed more sea water than you ever saw." 4 years aboard the USS Henry B. Wilson, DDG-7, 2 WESPAC's... seasick for most of it. LOL

Cliffy, get the scopalomine patch or do not go.

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