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Book: The American Legacy in Formula 1

This book was put together for the grand opening of the Circuit of the America's track in Austin a couple of years ago. They were selling them for $99. I've seen them on ebay and such for $50. I got 2 copies, don't need two. Second copy is still in plastic wrap.



Someone impress me with something cool, informative, funny, etc... about F1 or explain to me why it should really go to you, and I'll mail you my extra copy.

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The bar at the Seneca Lodge in Watkins Glen, NY always hosted the winners of the F1 races.
The winning drivers hung their floral wreaths on the walls where they ( the wreaths ) remain, mildly dis colored. A lot of autographed photos, team banners and decals.
I have stayed there approx 20 x for events at WGI and still discover new, to me, memoribilia.

Siebkin's near Road America is a similar type bar, without the F1 connection.

Matt

My buddy has a copy of the book, so I will disqualify myself for any consideration for the book.
Thanks Steve.
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Who is that all the way to the left on the cover? Peter Revson? The rest are Gurney/Mario/Phil Hill/Ginther.
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Matches his pics off the interwebs.
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He's the one face I wouldn't recognize from a photo, unlike the others. All I know about him is that he was good looking (hence my guess) and heir to the Revlon cosmetics fortune. And that he died in a racing/testing accident.
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Mario has a twin brother named Aldo. Once, when Mario was in the hospital, Aldo stood in for him during picture day at the Indy 500.
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Yep, that's Revson. I interviewed him a couple of times - indeed, he insisted that he was not the heir to the Revlon fortune, for what it's worth....
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Cool fact about Revson is that he is the last American born winner of an F1 race.
Mario was naturalized citizen.

5String, must have been pretty darn neat to interview him and others.
Seems to me they were larger than life, huge personalities, individuals.
IMO, today's drivers tow the line, except perhaps Kimi, and all fit in the same square.
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I would love this book as I've only ever seen Americans leave F1 without much success eg Scott Speed, Michael Andretti, Bobby Rahal, USF1 so am interested to know about the good olde days

Here goes, a few from my personal archives.....

Cool
A F1 car lifting off the gas brakes harder than if you stood as hard as you could on the brakes of your road car

You can play tunes with an F1 engine, here is God Save the Queen on a Renault V10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGEqlNU30Tg

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Honda designed a F1 car without a steering wheel but used levers either side of the driver. The test drivers felt it a very natural way to drive and it went almost as quick as a car with a steering wheel

Benetton designed and used a qualifying 12 lap only special qualifying car for one year before the rules banned the use. To save weight normal conventional design limits were ignored. Like, after paint you could see daylight through pin holes in the bodywork and the paint with no primer was 30% of the weight of each panel, the magnesium forged wheels had a rim thickness of 1.9mm, the engine heads were magnesium and would warp too much to be used after one qualifying session, the exhaust primaries were 0.4mm thick inconel

Funny
A Porsche 993 Turbo driven on a wet circuit by a normal driver is not as quick as a Renault Laguna 1.8 diesel station wagon with 3 passengers when driven by an F1 driver

The same chief designer created a super secret innovative brake pedal, he tested the concept using girls from the team who he asked to grip his pointy finger with their naked toes. Needless to say the idea never made it to the car and he never worked in an F1 team again

The design leadership of one dominating world championship winning car was helped along by the consumption of large amounts of cannabis joints and Jack Daniels

Rumour has it that when Montoya injured himself playing tennis while he drove for McLaren he was having a MX jump competition against Kimi out in the desert. Kimi won 15-love
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I would love this book as I've only ever seen Americans leave F1 without much success eg Scott Speed, Michael Andretti, Bobby Rahal, USF1 so am interested to know about the good olde days

You forgot Cheever and Sullivan!
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You forgot Cheever and Sullivan!
I'm not old enough to remember that far back
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I'm not old enough to remember that far back
Wait, what? Bobby Rahal was their contemporary..

Danny Sullivan drove for Tyrrel and Eddie Cheever drove for Renault and Arrows.

Journeyman drivers, for sure, nothing earth shattering, but definitely capable of top tens....
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Wait, what? Bobby Rahal was their contemporary..

Danny Sullivan drove for Tyrrel and Eddie Cheever drove for Renault and Arrows.

Journeyman drivers, for sure, nothing earth shattering, but definitely capable of top tens....
I included Rahal for when he was parachuted into the Jaguar team as CEO by Ford in 2001

Just checked and he also drove for Wolf in 1978 for the USA and Canadian GP's
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I included Rahal for when he was parachuted into the Jaguar team as CEO by Ford in 2001

Just checked and he also drove for Wolf in 1978 for the USA and Canadian GP's
Hah! I'd totally forgotten about that Jaguar fiasco! I thought you WERE talking about the Walter Wolf drive!



Good times!
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Phil Hill, the first American to win the driver's championship, lived in Santa Monica, up on the north side of town. His father was the Post Master of Santa Monica. He is in the Hall of Fame at SAMOHI, along with Hal Connolly and Rick Monday.
Growing up in Santa Monica, just up the block from the Otto Zipper Ferrari dealership down on Wilshire Blvd it was hard not to have him as a hero.
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Someone impress me with something cool, informative, funny, etc... about F1 or explain to me why it should really go to you, and I'll mail you my extra copy.
Danica Patrick is rumored to try to qualify for an F1 ride.
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Danica Patrick is rumored to try to qualify for an F1 ride.
THat is pretty darn funny.
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The scary part is the rumor (albeit not very likely) it true:
Danica Patrick discusses Formula 1 possibility | SPEED | The Motors On FOX Blog
Should I PM you my address?
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So, did you change your mind on the offer to give the book away?

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