Winning the championship and firing your crew chief in the same day?

^^^interesting reading above. I think many of these guys are WAY different when the cameras are not on them.

How is that for a reach...astronomical perhaps? The fact that you can draw a conclusion as to Tony Stewarts mental health condition from media reports shows how little you understand mental health. Your "measure" is being accomplished without a yard stick....

As for Tony's personality, I've met him, and know people who work with him, and wrote a post with some data points, but then deleted it as it was poorly written. I've actually tried to write a response on this a few times throughout the thread, I just can't find the right words and have deleted what I wrote the first time I read it. Tony is someone that believes he got to where he is by hard work, and looks down on anyone he thinks is slacking, or got to where they are without "working for it". He's not what I would call a nice guy, and he's not one to falsely "buddy buddy" with people. When Tony saw Ward running on the track, I am at least 00.0001% sure that what went through his mind was "What is this dumbass(or clown) doing?" followed by "Oh ****". I do know a driver that exactly fits the profile you outlined, and I have never gotten that vibe from TS.

BE911, here's a look at Tony's placement on the track. It would appear Tony was following the path of the car in front of Tony, which is what you are supposed to do per the rule book for when a track goes yellow. The leader slows to pace speed and becomes the pace car, and the rest of the field drives above pace speeder to form up into a single file line. This is per the rule book, and Tony is not doing anything out of ordinary.

I don't want some of you guys on my jury....

The end result of the way our USA court system works, is it looks for the most ignorant people it can find for a jury. The less facts the jurors have, the more their decision will be based solely on what is said in court.

I would use the term "uninformed". "Ignorant" has a bad connotation.

I watched a lot of that Zimmerman trial during the day and the hyperbole at night. Vastly different. I learned a whole lot too. I hope this doesn't go to trial, but there would be much to learn. Many people won't learn under andly circumstances...their mind is made up.

So what reason would Stewart have to be angry with Ward?

There are really only three possibilities for what happened.

1: Stewart intentionally ran him over.

2: Stewart was being an ass hole and wanted to scare him, "Squirt dirt at him" or something similar.

3: Stewart didn't see Ward until it was too late and did the best he could in a car that is difficult to control at slow speeds to avoid him, and came up short.

One is Just stupid. Nobody with more than three brain cells thinks Stewart intentionally killed Ward.

Two is certainly possible, after all, he is an ass hole. Since he is such an ass hole, people are coming out of the woodwork with examples of how he has done such things in the past, squirting other sprint car drivers with dirt, or revving his engine as he passed them really close. Wait, they aren't? Huh. He did throw his helmet at another driver that took him out of a race once, and that is exactly the same thing. Right? Right?

Three. This is what the driver two cars behind him believes, and I suspect he had a better view of the action than the video from the stands.

It's funny...you guys are holding a mock trial for him here and absolutely no one knows whether he did #2 or #3 on emcom's list. I'd vote for #2 but with absolutely no intention of hitting him, these guys are so good in a car that he probably thought he could untie the guy's shoelace with his spinning tire and slap him in the face at the same time. The amount of skill and cockiness this guy had, (past tense), was off the charts.

But I really don't know.

I vote for 2 also. by the way, he is being tried on many websites where cars or racing is the content.

he could probably end some of the pre-trial activities if he were to surface like an innocent man...but his handlers have other ideas and I suspect there is a serious reason for the deafening silence.

the ward family has been quite silent to my knowledge. a deal may be in the works?

jest speculating but ya never know...

Hey, at least I admitted my opinion was a reach! That's a hell of a lot more than you usually get on the Internet!

I've dealt with many a sociopath in my life, male and female. I know one when I see one. As for Stewart's work ethic, it was never in question by me. Damn right he worked hard to get where he is as a successful driver--I said as much in my last post. (If I didn't then I am now.) Again, I question his state of mind and why it goes where it seems to go.

I've seen this act before with sociopathic behavior and it is my opinion, repeat, my opinion that Stewart is deeply sociopathic with anger management issues. So are a lot of financially successful people. Stewart, however, acts out in public in front of millions of racing fans and there is now a death involved.

Does not matter what he says, the court of popular opinions mind will not be changed, those who think he is guilty will simply think he is a guilty and a liar.

I'll take #2 and wish it was #3. I'll split the difference and consider that the kid could have stumbled or misjudged his distance to Stewart's car while Stewart was trying to get/stay close to him to humiliate him with a dirt spraying.

He was angry with Ward because they had been racing hard and Stewart finally ran him into the wall to show him who the Alpha Dog is. Ward then had the audacity to challenge Stewart out there on the track, a-la Tony Stewart, and #2 happened.

PURE speculation your Honor! I call this to be struck from the record.

And that's why you stay away from juries. (I have firsthand experience with that too.) And that's why Stewart's corporate law team is working furiously behind the scenes to get this settled without a jury trial. You don't want Stewart on the stand like Jack Nicholson in "A Few Good Men" getting angry and admitting he drove at Ward to scare him. "YOU'RE GODDAM RIGHT I DID!" On the other hand, he could get a sympathetic jury the way O.J. Simpson did and walk. His lawyers want to pay his way out of this and move forward. If that is possible.

I agree. I even used the word "opinion." They're like a-holes: everyone has one.

Wow.

You know Stewart doesn't always win, right? He gets beat regularly in sprint cars. In other words every weekend dozens of drivers have "the audacity to challenge Stewart out there on the track". So there must be dozens of examples of Stewart doing something similar. Right?

Can the folks who still think Stewart wanted to scare him, "Squirt dirt at him" come up with even one example of him doing anything similar in the past?

Do you see contact between Stewart and Ward's cars in the video? I don't. It looked to me like Ward ran out of track and looped it on his own. So with no mirrors, and no radio, how would Stewart even know Ward spun?

Thanks for proving my point.

If you want results, here are last years, cut short when he broke his leg.

http://www.tonystewart.com/raceschedule?seriesid=3&seasonid=3

Accident, no one comes out good. Smoke will rise. Some real hambone views here.

Well said.