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Originally Posted by ZOA NOM (Post 8268689)

Told you so.

They can't get past the fact that Tony hit the throttle.

Negligent homicide.

I still don't think it's a certainty that he did.

What are you basing your assertion on?

My thoughts on that here, a few pages back... didn't see a response from you then: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/824701-tony-stewart-not-good-19.html#post8229568

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Originally Posted by ZOA NOM (Post 8268689)

Told you so.

They can't get past the fact that Tony hit the throttle.

Negligent homicide.

Why do you hate this guy so?

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Originally Posted by Ferraripete (Post 8264967)

just a quick comment..

I am here in my lake norman home and I had cigars w/ two of my friends from Penske. we discussed the situation and they were emphatic that this was over and there would be no case made criminally or civilly.

I was also emphatic and said...WRONG! this will not blow over and there will be a ripple effect regarding the team and sponsors. we will get to see this play out.

best,

pcb

Pardon me. would you happen to have any Grey poupon? :D

Not looking good..

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BREAKING: Tony Stewart About To Be Arrested As Damning New Evidence Surfaces

American News September 20, 2014 BREAKING: Tony Stewart About To Be Arrested As Damning New Evidence Surfaces2014-09-20T12:42:56+00:00 News

Latest reports regarding the Tony Stewart case suggest that the NASCAR star may be headed to a Grand Jury. According to reports, there are two possible reasons why the Ontario County Prosecutor’s Office are taking the case down his path. Either the DA wants to make sure he’s covered all aspects of the case, or because there is substantial proof that proves Stewart is guilty.

Americans have been debating the issues for nearly a month now, and it has become increasingly clear that there are many factors in play for the incident. The first is the video that was released from that night. According to reports, a second video was released which authorities have analyzed and enhanced as well. Perhaps the video shows some new evidence that leads the DA to believe Stewart may have been more in control of the accident than we think.

Others argue that the Ontario County DA is simply doing what he can to protect himself in the eyes of the media. Given the massive national attention on the case, it is extraordinarily important that he examine all angles. And if the Grand Jury claims there is not enough evidence to prove Stewart guilty beyond reasonable doubt, the case will be dropped.

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That website seems to be the only one reporting it, in those terms. My spidey sense says that it's not a very credible journalist source. Nate Ryan or Jeff Gluck would be all over this long ago if it had merit.

You guys are either delusional, or you're looking at it through hopeful, sympathetic eyes. He will be indicted by the end of the week.

Red88....you're from the area....do you know something the rest of us don't?

This was a good article:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/brad-keselowski---it-kind-of-feels-a-little-bit-like-a-cop-out--that-stewart-case-sent-to-grand-jury-173246866.html

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"The only concern I have is that it sounds like there is a second tape that they haven't released and I don't understand why," Keselowski said. "Beyond that, it kind of feels a little bit like a cop-out that they sent it to the grand jury. But I think everybody is wishing Tony the best and supporting him, and that's probably the most important thing.

Under New York state law, the process of sending a case to a grand jury is not a cop-out. It's due process, especially when there is a death of a human being involved. This is taken directly from the New York County District Attorney's website.

Under New York State law, unless the defendant consents, all felony cases must be presented to the Grand Jury. Grand Juries are empowered to hear evidence presented by prosecutors, and to take various actions regarding the evidence and legal charges they are to consider.

As we've pointed out before, it's incredibly important to note that a grand jury's involvement does not automatically mean an indictment is forthcoming. While Ontario County District Attorney Michael Tantillo had the option of dismissing the case himself, the grand jury can as well in addition to requesting felony or misdemeanor charges in the incident.

Yahoo Sports' Jay Busbee spoke to Donald G. Rehkopf, Jr., a Rochester, N.Y., defense attorney on Tuesday.

Rehkopf noted that Ontario County's district attorney has a history of referring cases with a "hint of a possibility" of criminal charges to the grand jury.

"And that's not necessarily a bad thing," Rehkopf added. "From a broader societal perspective, this allows the grand jury, on behalf of the people, to say 'we do' or 'we do not believe there was criminal intent.'"

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Originally Posted by VaSteve (Post 8272158)

Red88....you're from the area....do you know something the rest of us don't?

You are correct... I am from the area..............

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Originally Posted by Red88Carrera (Post 8272213)

You are correct... I am from the area..............

I guess the next 5 working days will tell...

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Originally Posted by JJ 911SC (Post 8272232)

I guess the next 5 working days will tell...

I would guess 4. Or 5 if you like.

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Originally Posted by Red88Carrera (Post 8272237)

I would guess 4. Or 5 if you like.

Talk to you on Thursday!

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Originally Posted by JJ 911SC (Post 8272283)

Talk to you on Thursday!

I'm sure there will be alot of talk on Thursday..........

Due process.

You only hate it when it's working against your wishes and/or personal needs.

"We Americans live under the rule of law." This has long been said again and again by 'law and order' types in politics and the media. Often it is a dog-whistle call to political base voters as code for beating up on the other, usually less fortunate tribes and the base loves it. Now a great American hero is under the microscope and people are pissing their pants. Well, we Americans live under the rule of law and we cannot pick and choose when, and to whom it applies. Sometimes it applies to our guy, our tribe, our heroes and we have to suck it up and allow the process to work through to its conclusion.

I don't really have a dog in this race. I still don't think it would take Johnny Cochran to get him off.

Local news just reported the Grand Jury decided there will be no criminal charges........

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Originally Posted by Red88Carrera (Post 8272127)

You guys are either delusional, or you're looking at it through hopeful, sympathetic eyes. He will be indicted by the end of the week.

Who appears to be the delusional one now? ;)

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you guys are either delusional, or you're looking at it through hopeful, sympathetic eyes. He will be indicted by the end of the week.

qfr

Now for the civil suit, there will be one, I guarantee it.

Wow.....read the article on USA today. Not mentioned on CNN....Ward was impaired on MJ.