Boeing 787: safety problems?

cockerpunk · 09-08-2014, 05:31 AM

Exclusive: 787 Dreamliner 'built to sell,' not for safety | Al Jazeera America

a lot of unnamed and unsourced "issues" ... i tend to discount stories like this. you can almost always find operators on an assembly line who hate there own product, or ***** about other operators work quality. nothing new there. drugs etc you can find that in almost any plant anywhere. after being in many plants, all you have to do is ask an operator what he thinks of his job, and you usually get a laundry list like this.

however, with the problems the 787 has already seen, makes one think.

i wish they go into more detail about what exactly they think are the quality problems ... idk, maybe they will

island911 · 09-08-2014, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cockerpunk

Exclusive: 787 Dreamliner 'built to sell,' not for safety | Al Jazeera America

a lot of unnamed and unsourced "issues" ... i tend to discount stories like this. ..

ya think?

Maybe Al Jazeera is just trying to tell the people, thinking about flying the 787 into buildings, that they should choose another safer plane.

Al Jazeera America

no wonder you're so bent.

cockerpunk · 09-08-2014, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by island911

ya think?

Maybe Al Jazeera is just trying to tell the people, thinking about flying the 787 into buildings, that they should choose another safer plane.

Al Jazeera America

no wonder you're so bent.

wow, really, that is your response?

FLYGEEZER · 07:27 AM

Who GAS what Al Jizzem sez !

island911 · 09-08-2014, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cockerpunk

wow, really, that is your response?

Even you show concern about the veracity of the 'claims' made by Al Jazeera; yet you promulgate their Story (propaganda) anyway.

Have you ever heard the term "Useful idiot" ?

cockerpunk · 09-08-2014, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by island911

Even you show concern about the veracity of the 'claims' made by Al Jazeera; yet you promulgate their Story (propaganda) anyway.

Have you ever heard the term "Useful idiot" ?

wow, island, you are really letting PARF out arnt you? all of a sudden i am spreading Islamist propaganda?

wow.

actually the main reason why i suspect Boeing is not doing things properly is .... THEM HAVING A HISTORY OF NOT DOING THINGS PROPERLY. you know, that whole thing about the 787 being grounded for safety reasons ... yeah, that thing.

but feel free to think its because i am an Islamic sympathizer and aljeezeria is an islamic propaganda machine, all while i am doubting there claims in my initial post, that makes sense too.

wow, really revealing responses as to your character island. you are a sad strange little man. there is more to life than PARF my friend, far more to life.

island911 · 09-08-2014, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cockerpunk

wow, island, you are really letting PARF out arnt you?
....

punk, you are the one posting a thread promulgating an Al Jazeera hit piece.

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Originally Posted by cockerpunk

all of a sudden i am spreading Islamist propaganda?
....

Yes! Now you've got it.

Good job.

island911 · 09-08-2014, 07:07 AM

Punk, do you not trust Obama to make certain that our planes are reasonably safe?

The FAA has standards you know. A big ol book of air plane build standards and testing.

island911 · 09-08-2014, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by cockerpunk

...but feel free to think its because i am an Islamic sympathizer ....

I never suggested such a thing.

I suggested that you might be a Useful idiot

an an Islamic sympathizer knows what they are doing - the useful idiot - not so much.

see the difference?

J P Stein · 09-08-2014, 07:17 AM

With the punks prevous posts taken into account, I doubt the "useful" part.

island911 · 09-08-2014, 07:36 AM

punk, the first few 787s made had some fundamental problem in the build of the wings. --the Chinese (IIRC) built the wings, not to Boeing spec, but rather with most of the CF plys specified.
(hey, they looked right ...this is the same as a Bolex, right? )
Yeah, people at Boeing were saying WTF a lot back then.

cockerpunk · 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by island911

punk, you are the one posting a thread promulgating an Al Jazeera hit piece.

Yes! Now you've got it.

Good job.

al jezeera is a perfectly respected news source.

well, aside from the folks who herd of Al Jazeera in 2002 mentioned on fox news as a terrorist new agency.

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Originally Posted by island911

Punk, do you not trust Obama to make certain that our planes are reasonably safe?

The FAA has standards you know. A big ol book of air plane build standards and testing.

what. the. actual. ****.

seriously island. what are you talking about, obama and the FAA ....

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Originally Posted by island911

I never suggested such a thing.

I suggested that you might be a Useful idiot

an an Islamic sympathizer knows what they are doing - the useful idiot - not so much.

see the difference?

lol

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Originally Posted by island911

punk, the first few 787s made had some fundamental problem in the build of the wings. --the Chinese (IIRC) built the wings, not to Boeing spec, but rather with most of the CF plys specified.
(hey, they looked right ...this is the same as a Bolex, right? )
Yeah, people at Boeing were saying WTF a lot back then.

the 787 had quite a few fundamental problems, not only in the Chinese sourced wings.

HardDrive · 09-08-2014, 08:58 AM

You post a smear job against an American company by Al Jazerra, and expect to be taken seriously?

The 787 is a groundbreaking plane. Its roll out was indeed rocky, and that process was made more difficult by Boeing managements highly questionable choice to produce the plane from global suppliers.

But its still a revolutionary plane. And it has a perfect safety record. And it still continues to sell like hot cakes. Are ALL of the airline executives around the world simply suckers? Have all the aviation engineers on earth been cowed into silence? No. Unlike you, they understand how minor the issues that have hobbled the 787 really are.

Sorry man, but posting something like this really does you make you look like a liberal dupe. Your urge to spread Anti-American sentiment has simply gotten the best of you.

RANDY P · RANDY P's Garage

Punk has NO IDEA that the plane must meet FAA standards to fly- Boeing can't just slap an airplane up there, it's not like a car where you can hack and modify and no one cares. He just doesn't get the connection.

He needs to stick with screwing up Homonyms - that's what he does best.

PS-feel the love CP, feel the love

rjp

fingpilot · 09-08-2014, 09:03 AM

Rhymes with strolling.

The two things you never want to watch being made are airplanes and sausage.

Science flies you to the Moon.
Religion flies you into buildings.

That ought to do it.

cairns · 10:12 AM

If the OP knew anything about airplanes (which he clearly doesn't) he would know that every new aircraft and certainly every new aircraft which pushes technological boundaries (which the 787 clearly does) has teething problems. The 787s problems are no more serious (and arguably far less) than those afflicting the A380 and the A350 or the 777, 707, DC-10, DC-7 or B-29 if you want to go back that far.

And if the example of "journalism" he posted is that of a "perfectly respected news source" journalistic standards have hit a new low.

He should stick to spouting liberal ka-ka in parf.

cockerpunk · 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RANDY P

Punk has NO IDEA that the plane must meet FAA standards to fly- Boeing can't just slap an airplane up there, it's not like a car where you can hack and modify and no one cares. He just doesn't get the connection.

He needs to stick with screwing up Homonyms - that's what he does best.

PS-feel the love CP, feel the love

rjp

i am well aware an aircraft must meet FAA standards before flying in the USA.

meeting FAA standards does not mean it is a safe aircraft.

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Originally Posted by HardDrive

You post a smear job against an American company by Al Jazerra, and expect to be taken seriously?

The 787 is a groundbreaking plane. Its roll out was indeed rocky, and that process was made more difficult by Boeing managements highly questionable choice to produce the plane from global suppliers.

But its still a revolutionary plane. And it has a perfect safety record. And it still continues to sell like hot cakes. Are ALL of the airline executives around the world simply suckers? Have all the aviation engineers on earth been cowed into silence? No. Unlike you, they understand how minor the issues that have hobbled the 787 really are.

Sorry man, but posting something like this really does you make you look like a liberal dupe. Your urge to spread Anti-American sentiment has simply gotten the best of you.

so, you admit that boeing has had a rocky and unreliable start, but because the source is one specific new agency, you doubt its credibility? even when boeing excecs are already well known for pulling this kind of stuff previously on rollout?

lol

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Originally Posted by cairns

If the OP knew anything about airplanes (which he clearly doesn't) he would know that every new aircraft and certainly every new aircraft which pushes technological boundaries (which the 787 clearly does) has teething problems. The 787s problems are no more serious (and arguably far less) than those afflicting the A380 and the A350 or the 777, 707, DC-10, DC-7 or B-29 if you want to go back that far.

And if the example of "journalism" he posted is that of a "perfectly respected news source" journalistic standards have hit a new low.

He should stick to spouting liberal ka-ka in parf.

same response as above ^^^

some of you are really letting PARF overflow into the rest of your lives. can't say im surprised frankly, kinda the way i always thought of PARFs conservatives. disappointed is more the correct term. OMG its got a muslim NAME! posted by someone i disagree with politically, IT MUST BE BULL ****

amazing.

island911 · 09-08-2014, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cockerpunk

..some of you are really letting PARF overflow ....

Yeah, it's everyone else ... but not you.

btw, that is darkgreen text above.

your welcome

cairns · 09-08-2014, 10:27 AM

Some people just like to revel in their own ignorance. CP is one of them.

cockerpunk · 10:31 AM

imagine the response to this thread, had it been fox news, and an article about GM's quality ... how quickly would that responded to with "UAW would defend the druggies too" and quips about "government motors" and how "smart" it was to bail them out. then it wouldn't be a "smear job" but proof and further evidence of Pelicans suspicions.

how very different the response is ... fascinating. change the source to one with a muslim sounding name, and BOOM, all hell breaks loose hahaha