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sc_rufctr 11-13-2014 03:15 PM

Bill Cosby a rapist? .... No way!
 
Normally I wouldn't have believed it but we're not talking about one "victim" here.
If true how did he ever get away with it? The more you read about this the worse it gets.

Bill Cosby raped me. Why did it take 30 years for people to believe my story? - The Washington Post


"In 2004, when Andrea Constand filed a lawsuit against Bill Cosby for sexual assault, her lawyers asked me to testify.
Cosby had drugged and raped me, too, I told them. The lawyers said I could testify anonymously as a Jane Doe, but I ardently rejected that idea.
My name is not Jane Doe. My name is Barbara Bowman, and I wanted to tell my story in court.
In the end, I didn’t have the opportunity to do that, because Cosby settled the suit for an undisclosed amount of money."

Don Ro 11-13-2014 08:43 PM

OK...I'll go first.
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Interesting.

Tobra 11-13-2014 08:53 PM

It seems to me that sexual assault is not something you could settle out of court.

livi 11-14-2014 01:12 AM

Again in the Words of Robin Williams:

"Like when Britney Spears sings I´m a Virgin. Yeah right! And Michael Jackson is a father. Move on!"

motion 11-14-2014 04:22 AM

I was under the impression that this sort of thing was de rigueur in Hollywood, at least in the past.

red-beard 11-14-2014 04:25 AM

Only with underage aspiring actors and actresses...

berettafan 11-14-2014 04:53 AM

heartbreaking if true.

ossiblue 11-14-2014 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 8352652)
It seems to me that sexual assault is not something you could settle out of court.

It doesn't seem like it could, but it often is because the prosecution only knows an alleged crime has been committed when a victim presses charges, and the only evidence for the prosecution is the victim's subsequent testimony. If the victim drops the charges and refuses to testify or otherwise cooperate with the prosecution, there is no case. I suspect, in this allegation, the victim withdrew her complaint and refused to cooperate once Cosby's team negotiated a settlement.

BE911SC 11-14-2014 08:14 AM

One has to assume that Bill Cosby, at the height of his popularity and earning power in the 1980s, had a hundred attractive women trying to get themselves impregnated by him. Standard celebrity or wealth/power situation. It's a "he said, she said" and thus very difficult, if not impossible to prove in actual court. The court of public opinion might yield some money so she's on TV now. Settlements occur in order to make the problem go away and do not imply guilt on either party.

One might also assume that Mrs. Cosby, comfortable in her life with her marriage contract and children legally binding her to Mr. Cosby's estate, had probably stopped sleeping with him and gone on about her own life separate from his. Another classic marriage-with-money scenario. He constantly gets attention from many younger and very attractive women (the free-sex pitch that is so common around moneyed men) and isn't getting any at home so he eventually succumbs, perhaps awkwardly in this case.

Gretch 11-14-2014 08:53 AM

/\ /\ that sounds like one side of a fairy tale........ and no more.

I wonder what the other side is.

Guy was a hero of mine for a long time............. jury is out, but it is disappointing hearing this. I hope it is not true, but I am not into "pretending" anything.

BE911SC 11-14-2014 09:03 AM

I didn't say he didn't do it. I merely pointed out what could be going on behind the media glare.

scottmandue 11-14-2014 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gretch (Post 8353284)
I wonder what the other side is.

Guy was a hero of mine for a long time............. jury is out, but it is disappointing hearing this. I hope it is not true, but I am not into "pretending" anything.

This... he is/was a hero of mine... hope it is not true but always think the lady deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Just to play devils advocate it sounds like everyone was under the influence of more than one substance.

Don't know how you are going to prove that 20-30 years ago you were at a party where everyone was stoned and there was inappropriate sexual activity.

BE911SC 11-14-2014 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 8353315)
Don't know how you are going to prove that 20-30 years ago you were at a party where everyone was stoned and there was inappropriate sexual activity.

That's why she's on TV, in the court of public opinion, trying to rustle up some interest in her claim and put pressure, hopefully, on Cosby to offer another settlement. It's a story about celebrity sex and the media loves stories about celebrity sex. She's probably too late though. Cosby's star has been in decline for years and he may not care about his career or his legacy enough to offer up another settlement.

I didn't say he didn't do it. I am saying that there is much, much more going on in these situations that doesn't get stated on TV.

wdfifteen 11-14-2014 09:23 AM

"Why did it take 30 years for people to believe my story?"

Because you took the money and ran instead of trying to prove your allegation.

t-tom 11-14-2014 09:27 AM

In my best Bill Cosby Voice "That's some good puddin"

BE911SC 11-14-2014 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t-tom (Post 8353331)
In my best Bill Cosby Voice "That's some good puddin"

Just spat coffee out all over the place.

berettafan 11-14-2014 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 8353326)
"Why did it take 30 years for people to believe my story?"

Because you took the money and ran instead of trying to prove your allegation.

if you read carefully you'll find that the cupcake in question was to be called as a witness but the complainant settled and the trial never took place.




PS,

As a liberal you're supposed to hate Cosby since he has been known to tell black people who whine for a living to get their **** together and work/be responsible for themselves and their families like the rest of us.

wdfifteen 11-14-2014 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 8353341)
As a liberal you're supposed to hate Cosby since he has been known to tell black people who whine for a living to get their **** together and work/be responsible for themselves and their families like the rest of us.

I seem to have lost my copy of the liberal handbook. Can I borrow yours?
At the risk of getting fint all butthurt, why PARF this thread up?

berettafan 11-14-2014 09:50 AM

mine is at least 6 mos old and three reformed hippies died getting it to me.

not only is it hopelessly out of date by now the human cost (even in hippies) is just too much to get another copy.

john70t 11-14-2014 11:38 AM

Not that it didn't happen...
But she stayed with him, traveled, and got bit parts in her career, for the next year or more.
Didn't tell police.
Didn't even tell mom.
Only after Cosby dumped her at the curb did the allegations came out.


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