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yellowperil 11-22-2014 02:08 PM

Norton Manx or AJS 7R ??
 
If you could have your pick. Or maybe Matchless G50?

M.D. Holloway 11-22-2014 02:44 PM

Manx...

scottmandue 11-22-2014 02:52 PM

I will just stick to riding my unicorn with the diamond studded saddle

Nostril Cheese 11-22-2014 03:01 PM

Honda GB500

scottmandue 11-22-2014 03:03 PM

I do dearly miss my trident... sold a long time ago.

Evans, Marv 11-22-2014 04:24 PM

I'd like to have my '59 AJS Mod. 30 600 back again. 385 lb., magneto, dry sump, kick start, 37 hp. One of the most dependable machines I've owned. I could cruise at 65 mph all day long with that 37 hp. & did that a lot back in the day.

BeyGon 11-22-2014 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 8365945)
I do dearly miss my trident... sold a long time ago.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1416702537.jpg

Me too, 900cc, big cams, big valves, better clutches, Dunstall exhaust, different gearing, built for me by Danny Macias.
First bike with front and rear disk brakes, plus it had electric start. If Triumph would have kept making these they wouldn't have had such a long dry spell.

BeyGon 11-22-2014 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 8365871)
If you could have your pick. Or maybe Matchless G50?

Or a Goldstar.

LakeCleElum 11-22-2014 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeyGon (Post 8366041)
Or a Goldstar.

Speaking of Gold Star - Seattle MC Show this weekend. My good friend (an old school teacher of mine) and his son's bikes. Dad also has 2 AJS, a 500 and a 600. Son is current President of the local Vintage MC club:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1416708312.jpg

creaturecat 11-23-2014 08:50 AM

Manx. Absolutely.

yellowperil 11-23-2014 09:24 AM

Here's the three bikes in question, I should've posted them first in case anyone is unfamiliar with them.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1416763213.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1416763290.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1416763365.jpg
I'd be happy with any of these three. Warriors all.

tctnd 11-23-2014 09:45 AM

AJS is easier to maintain but parts are less common. Manx is generally regarded as the top single of it's time and there are lots of (expensive) repro parts available, enough to build a whole bike if you have the means.
regards,
Phil

on2wheels52 11-23-2014 09:47 AM

I'm thinking that someone's going to have to die before any of those three are put up for sale ;)
Jim

BeyGon 11-23-2014 10:03 AM

I was thinking of the BSA DBD34, they also were racers, flat track in the USA. Probably easier to find.

yellowperil 11-23-2014 10:58 AM

Well, what got me going was the fact a long time friend just sold his '51 Manx last month after owning it for 50 odd years. I was very familiar with that bike and was always kinda wondering if I'd ever get a shot at owning it. But it didn't come to pass. So I was wondering what might have been.

I posted here last month, I think, but will re-post for your FYIhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1416768850.jpg
It was always kinda ratty, and was of course a plunger rear that was modified into some sort of shocked rear but new owner will for sure fix all that as well as seat, fenders etc. I shoulda and woulda. My friend is the slim older gent on the left.

nota 11-23-2014 11:55 AM

a buddy had a manx
back when they were just an old bike
he need a chase car to pick up the bits
that regularly got shook off it

epbrown 11-26-2014 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 8365871)
If you could have your pick. Or maybe Matchless G50?

I'd go for a Kawasaki W650 and mod to suit.

http://www.mensreverie.com/wp-conten...-W650_Open.jpg

http://goodsparkgarage.com/wp-conten...G_3403_web.jpg

5String43 11-26-2014 07:28 AM

I'm thinking that the Matchless and the AJS use basically the same engine - maybe? I think maybe the companies had a close relationship? It's been a long time since I messed with this stuff so I don't remember for sure. Whether they do or don't, I would think they'd be a lot harder to keep running/to find parts for. In any case, for me, it would have to be the Manx. I suspect that one could build a replica almost completely from totally new parts. I also imagine that replica would be significantly faster and more reliable than the original.

Bill Douglas 11-26-2014 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 8365871)
Norton Manx or AJS 7R ??

Out of the two I'd choose the Triton.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...e_and_tank.jpg

scottmandue 11-26-2014 11:54 AM

One has to ask, what is the intended purpose?
As rolling art none of them can be beat.
As vintage machinery wonderful.
As a daily driver? Not so much...
As was said a very nice retro café can be built with a modern thumper.
YMMV

yellowperil 11-26-2014 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 8371922)
Out of the two I'd choose the Triton.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...e_and_tank.jpg

Good choice, the Atlas/Norton engine and the featherbed make it a good ride. Had a 68 Atlas 750 that I shoulda kept, nice smooth ride. The Commando, that came later, was nice too.

BeyGon 11-26-2014 01:10 PM

well, you had me, I thought that was a Triumph motor in a Norton frame.

yellowperil 11-26-2014 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeyGon (Post 8372047)
well, you had me, I thought that was a Triumph motor in a Norton frame.

Yes, sorry I think you're right. I thought that was an Atlas engine but mistaken on that.

yellowperil 11-26-2014 02:03 PM

Here's a shot of my Atlas, quite similar especially around the tach drive housing., I should've been more observant.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1417039380.jpg

Bill Douglas 11-26-2014 02:21 PM

When I was a schoolboy my best buddy Micheal Southwell had a Triton with the norton featherbed racing frame. He was always pissed off that it was neither a Norton nor a Triumph. Ah, to go back in time. My bike at the same time was a special build Triumph Bonneville called a Saint. I also wished it was a real Bonneville. One sold recently for $40,000 - slap my face.

BeyGon 11-26-2014 02:42 PM

Yes the Norton frame was good but I think the best frame around at the time was the one that held the BSA Triple and then when Triumph bought BSA they made the Trident with that frame.
Mine, post #7 was the newer frame.

Bill Douglas 11-26-2014 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeyGon (Post 8372166)
Mine, post 7 was the newer frame.

And maybe the best looking Triumph ever too.

BeyGon 11-26-2014 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 8372173)
And maybe the best looking Triumph ever too.


I really liked that bike, I raced the hell out of it. Nobody paid attention to it, they would ask me if I wanted to race my Bonneville. The Trident was a 750 stock but I had some work done to mine. It handled good and was faster but not as fast as a Kawasaki Z or a Honda Four, it just went through corners so much better.


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