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Hads930 12-15-2014 06:56 PM

Getting back into camping
 
Tent recommendations? Want to take the family camping, need room for 2 adults and a child. Lightweight, may end up packing it around. Been 25 years since I last looked at tents, ideas? Just go to REI and pick up what's in stock? Anything to avoid?

Ayles 12-15-2014 07:08 PM

I have been contemplating the same. Now that I have a son I think he should experience camping like I did with my dad. I don't have any camping gear left and been almost that long since I have purchased any gear...

porsche4life 12-15-2014 07:17 PM

Pretty hard to beat REI. All good equipment, and usually about the best prices. The cheap tents are just that... I have gotten wet in a coleman tent more times than I care to count! Not happening again. I have a marmot and I love it!

David McLaughlin 12-15-2014 07:20 PM

I car camp, so size and weight isn't much of an issue... until you get to the camp site. I have a 10x10 that was good with my ex, my two kids and myself along with all our gear for some time. as the kids got older, we got them their own smaller tent. The only problem was some of the more out of the way sites or best tent spots within the site wasn't big enough for such a large tent. That said, I don't regret going with something with more room, especially on rainy days.

I'm also a major fan of LL Bean brand tents. Never failed me in the worst of weather and lasts a very long time.

Mine is an older model of this one...
Northwoods 6-Person Cabin Tent: Tents | Free Shipping at L.L.Bean

Dantilla 12-15-2014 07:34 PM

REI sells good stuff.

Our big tent came from Costco several years ago. It has served us well, but is nearing the end of its life. Fine for a regular campsite with no hiking, but if I'm going to carry a tent on the backpack, its got to be a good, lightweight one.

My backpacking tent is way older, but is still like new. Maybe that's because it hasn't been used by high-energy kids roughousing.

osidak 12-15-2014 07:38 PM

we use the cabelas west wind - think they have changed since we bought ours. probably would go with their Alaskan guide model now if I where buying now

Cabela's West Wind™ Dome Tent – 6-Person : Cabela's

Cabela's Alaskan Guide® Geodesic Tent with Fiberglass Poles – 6-Person : Cabela's

have used my West Wind tent about 15 times and it has rain on 14 of those trips - no water in the tent yet

craigster59 12-15-2014 08:00 PM

REI all the way. I've found 2 man tents to actually be one man (hey, I'm a man of leisure) so go bigger than the occupancy rating. That's gonna be some weight in the 4-5 person range, not exactly "packable" if you are the mule.

I would go with 2 ea 2 man tents, one for you and one for the Wife and kid. You'll sleep much sounder.

Hydrocket 12-15-2014 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hads930 (Post 8398093)
Tent recommendations?


Before we proceed further, I must ask...what is your budget?

fanaudical 12-15-2014 08:33 PM

Take a look at REI's Half Dome series of tents. I find them light enough to backpack with (not the lightest) and roomy enough for a couple adults. They are not horribly expensive either.

Evans, Marv 12-15-2014 08:47 PM

With a child, you most likely won't be going on any long treks. You can get a 4 person, dome tent with a rain fly and portico that would probably work out the best for taking your kid off road a bit. For car camping, get the largest tent you can manage. The more room, the better.

aigel 12-15-2014 08:58 PM

I like Eureka! tents.

What weather will you be in? In my experience, if you expect any rain, buy a 4 season tent. Anything else, you'll be soaked before long. the "rainfly" on the 3 season tents are a joke.

I don't shop at REI, I think their stuff is overpriced and they always seem to be out of stock on what I am looking for. Lastly, when I tell them I need the equipment to go HUNTING, I always get the stink eye. Maybe your location is less of a Sierra Club hangout.

That's my two tents worth!

G

Hydrocket 12-15-2014 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by aigel (Post 8398207)
I like Eureka! tents.

What weather will you be in? In my experience, if you expect any rain, buy a 4 season tent.

G

Completely, completely disagree. What you are saying is that somehow, 3 season tents are not waterproof. Totally untrue! 3 & 4 season tents can be made of the exact same material. The difference with a 4 season is they are generally sturdier (high winter winds) and have a snow load...usually accomplished by extra/thicker poles. Windows and venting are often different in 4 season tents. However, the material is often the same.

The material in my Nemo 3 season tent was the same as their 4 season tents. And I stayed in my tent for 48 hours straight downpour...and not a drop of water.

aigel 12-15-2014 09:20 PM

I have never had a 3 season tent that held water. But maybe I need to get updated as well!

G

Hydrocket 12-15-2014 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by aigel (Post 8398218)
I have never had a 3 season tent that held water. But maybe I need to get updated as well!

G


I suppose it depends on the make/model and material used...and quality of course. Any good 3 season tent should hold water..easily and for days on end.

Cajundaddy 12-15-2014 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrocket (Post 8398228)
I suppose it depends on the make/model and material used...and quality of course. Any good 3 season tent should hold water..easily and for days on end.

Yep,
Getting wet in a rain soaked tent is often more about where it got pitched than inferior materials as long as it has a proper rainfly and you keep your gear off the tent walls. High ground, wind protected, and channeling water away has always worked for me. We used to spend 2 weeks at 10,000 ft in the Sierras every summer and one year it rained nearly nonstop for 8 days straight. You learn a lot about staying dry under those conditions.

I really don't need fancy or expensive and while I like REI I tend to buy a lot more at Big Jive for 1/10th the price. I was looking for a good rain coat for work recently and the REI Patagonia looked great at $400. Not gonna happen. I found a well made, insulated raincoat that fits good for $35 at Big Five. High and dry after 4" of rain last week. I will use this coat, snag it on fences, put it away wet, get it stained and greasy and it will serve me well. More beer money left over for when the work is done. :)

30 years ago REI was THE place for quality gear. Now it seems more like the place for high end fashion. The gear still works great and they have very knowledgeable sales people, but Big Five or Bass Pro Shop might be more realistic for an old trail hound like me. If I am carrying $5k worth of gear into the woods it better be to summit McKinley.

Hydrocket 12-15-2014 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajundaddy (Post 8398241)
Yep,
Getting wet in a rain soaked tent is often more about where it got pitched than inferior materials as long as it has a proper rainfly and you keep your gear off the tent walls.


My tent doesn't have a rainfly..it's single/hybrid walled. However...perhaps what he was saying about staying dry was condensation? You can get condensation inside the tent under certain rainy conditions. Particularly if it rains and the tent is warm-ish on the inside.


For packable rain gear, I like Frogg Toggs

ckelly78z 12-16-2014 02:57 AM

Back when were first married, my wife and I slept in the back of our Dodge Caravan on an air mattress with plenty of room. We had a tent set up for all the provisions and gear. I think after sleeping in the van, we swore off sleeping in a tent forever, and now have a 30' Dutchmen travel trailer.

recycled sixtie 12-16-2014 06:02 AM

Craigster is right. If you are one person it is great to have a two man tent. 3 folks then maybe a 4 man tent.

I have had a Big Agnes two man tent with only me using it. The extra space is nice to have. It is made in Steamboat Springs Co. Very light weight of 3 pounds so a 4 man would not be much more. I have backpacked a lot with it and it does not take much space.

It has the fly cover as well and does not seem to have the condensation problem. Easy to erect in max 15 minutes. I have not camped overnight for a couple of years but I do take it on day hikes as it is so light in case of an emergency.

I prefer a hotel room for sleeping but day hikes only get me about 3 hours into a hike and then I turn around and come back.

So if you are backpacking the lighter the tent the better and should be compact for putting in your backpack.

Cheers, Guy

PS My tent withstood strong winds in a thunderstorm. Leaving the tent in the middle of a thunderstorm could have ended up with the tent blowing away!

Grimm 12-16-2014 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by osidak (Post 8398148)
we use the cabelas west wind - think they have changed since we bought ours. probably would go with their Alaskan guide model now if I where buying now

Cabela's West Wind™ Dome Tent – 6-Person : Cabela's

Cabela's Alaskan Guide® Geodesic Tent with Fiberglass Poles – 6-Person : Cabela's

have used my West Wind tent about 15 times and it has rain on 14 of those trips - no water in the tent yet

I have the Alaskan Guide tent and it is very water resistant. It is also very durable, and roomy. I would not try and fit more than 3 people in a 6-person tent, though.

And, the thing is very heavy. Definitely not light weight.

vash 12-16-2014 06:41 AM

Pack tent. Google Big Agnes. Great stuff. Easy to haul around. Light.

Oracle 12-16-2014 07:15 AM

We used to tent and it was an absolute pain in the arse because kids need extra PJ, sweaters, pants, socks, etc.

I bought a travel trailer. Whoa!! What a difference. Even the kids enjoy camping..
No more tenting for us..
Especially here in the mountains cause it gets really cold at night (even summer) and bears wandering.

badcar 12-16-2014 07:23 AM

I design and develop tents, packs, sleeping bags, and expedition equipment for Eddie Bauer....so I am a bit biased. I would take a look at this little animal...
Stargazer 3-person Tent | Eddie Bauer ascent&color=907

I designed this tent with Jake Norton, one of our guides, for an expedition in Africa to climb Mt. Stanley, the third highest peak. He needed something that is spacious and as weather resistant as I could make it. So I used a 10Kmm coating on the floor to ensure the tent floor was as waterproof as I could go without too much of a weight penalty. The design is fairly wind resistant, I have had it in sustained 25 to 30 mph winds at Camp Muir in the summer without issue. And it is a true 3 person tent with nearly 49 square feet of space and pack weight at under 5 pounds. The design is a 2012 winner or Field and Stream Best of the Best...(chest thump)

it is on sale now.....

Nemo, Agnes, REI build great tents...all are good choices.

Here is a pic of the tent on Kili...We help with Heroes Project with equipment..
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1418746888.jpg

And even more extreme...my backyard...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1418746931.jpg

Get outside!

Evans, Marv 12-16-2014 09:27 AM

Truthfully, I have to agree with Oracle about camping activities with kids, especially small kids. They need more stuff, more varied activities not available at a semi-primitive campsite, and their perception of the experience probably isn't like an adult's.

gtc 12-16-2014 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hads930 (Post 8398093)
Tent recommendations? Want to take the family camping, need room for 2 adults and a child. Lightweight, may end up packing it around. Been 25 years since I last looked at tents, ideas? Just go to REI and pick up what's in stock? Anything to avoid?

Equipment has advanced so much in 25 years, that anything you pick at REI should seem great. Compact, lightweight gear is everywhere, thanks to advances in materials.
REI isn't necessarily the cheapest or best in all cases, but they generally have great customer service and warranty support, which is mainly why I shop there. To purchase top quality gear is really, really expensive.

Hydrocket 12-16-2014 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by badcar (Post 8398643)
I design and develop tents, packs, sleeping bags, and expedition equipment for Eddie Bauer....

Get outside!

That's AWESOME!! Congrats! Looks like a great tent...though I wouldn't want to set it up when it's raining. I'll definitely have to PM you about future gear choices (I need a new sleeping bags).

I love the fact that I can set my tent up from the inside if its raining. All in under 2 minutes.

varmint 12-16-2014 06:33 PM

Look up the Nemo Morpho series.

kanadary 12-16-2014 06:46 PM

I have two kelty one 4 and one 6 man. The 6 you can stand in and very roomy. But both are light weight for hiking. Only car camping. But we'll built never been wet in it and I live in the pnw

Hydrocket 12-16-2014 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by varmint (Post 8399505)
Look up the Nemo Morpho series.

That's my tent!!

LOVE IT!!!

recycled sixtie 12-17-2014 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle (Post 8398633)
We used to tent and it was an absolute pain in the arse because kids need extra PJ, sweaters, pants, socks, etc.

I bought a travel trailer. Whoa!! What a difference. Even the kids enjoy camping..
No more tenting for us..
Especially here in the mountains cause it gets really cold at night (even summer) and bears wandering.

I agree with you totally. For a better night's sleep a hard sided trailer is better in the mountains for protection against bears and the cold. A pop up trailer is still comfortable but no protection against a curious bear.

However to truly get the wilderness experience backpacking gets a person further into places where a car cannot go. So lightweight equipment is essential.

As regards children I have been hiking with some that are as young as 10 and 11 and they seem to keep up quite well. Much younger not too sure about!

A good quality tent will last you for years.
Guy

VincentVega 12-17-2014 07:23 AM

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I design and develop tents, packs, sleeping bags, and expedition equipment for Eddie Bauer....so I am a bit biased.
Too cool, sounds like a cool gig.

Quote:

Equipment has advanced so much in 25 years, that anything you pick at REI should seem great. Compact, lightweight gear is everywhere, thanks to advances in materials.
This is how I think. It's been a while for me too and I've been thinking about giving it a go again. Lots of good memories from my 20's, not sure if my old bones are still up for the challenge. Not wanting to spend a mint on a tent I like the Half dome and similar tents for not much $$.


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