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onlycafe 01-09-2015 01:50 PM

what would you do?
 
i won an ebay auction for a signed copy of a mick foley book a couple of days ago. there was no reserve set for this. the auction started at 99 cents.

i paid with paypal, and waited for my book.

just now i got an email from the seller through paypal saying that he cannot give the book away for the price that won the auction. ($2.25) however he would be willing to sell it for $20.00.

i can understand wanting to get more for it, but if he was afraid of a short sale he should have placed a reserve on it.

anyway, i am curious as to what the folks here have to say about this. thanks.

stomachmonkey 01-09-2015 01:55 PM

He's a douchebag and needs to be reported to ebay and banned.

He broke his user agreement.

Bill Douglas 01-09-2015 01:56 PM

Tell eBay.

Baz 01-09-2015 02:03 PM

1. Communicate with him that eBay policy and procedures dictate he is bound by the auction outcome and he only has himself to blame for how it ended up

2. In that same communication, let him know if he does not fulfill his end of the deal, you will report him to eBay PLUS leave negative feedback

For that mere $17.75, he should understand it's not worth the crap he would have to endure if he doesn't hold up his end....and ultimately he should just ship you the book and (maybe) learn from his mistake

Amail 01-09-2015 02:04 PM

If it's a seller with little feedback it's probably a newb mistake on his part. I'd negotiate with him a bit before chucking him under the bus.

If he's got over 100 feedback, toss him right under there.

BeyGon 01-09-2015 02:05 PM

Exactly,, I was agreeing with Baz

craigster59 01-09-2015 02:14 PM

Tell him you'll sell him the book for $25 and you'll pay the shipping charges.

yellowperil 01-09-2015 02:57 PM

If the book is worth it, give him a break. He must have forgot to place a reserve. Send him 10-15 bucks, no big deal, it's peanuts.

t-tom 01-09-2015 03:03 PM

Do Not Do this.

"In that same communication, let him know if he does not fulfill his end of the deal, you will report him to eBay PLUS leave negative feedback"

Never ever in an eBay email threaten to leave bad feedback. I'm a power seller, Hell I sell on ebay for a living and have for over 10 years. Just email him and tell him you'd like to book for the price you won the auction for. If he says no call eBay and talk to them. There is nothing they can really do they can't make him ship the book to you. But if you threaten him with bad feedback they will not even listen to you.

LakeCleElum 01-09-2015 03:08 PM

Whatever you do, don't post his Ebay screen-name here or anywhere on the internet. Against Ebay fine print.....A Pelican friend of mine had the same thing happen with a set of Fuchs...Ebay seller was a Pelican and my friend called him out.........Friend got kicked off Ebay for 90 days.......That Fender dude from Az never did make it right.....

wayner 01-09-2015 03:30 PM

Ask him what he can do to sweeten the pot if you let him off the hook. Any other interesting books in his collection that have not made it to ebay that interest you?

...or, make the deal, but tell him Greg will ship it to him ( inside joke...you'll have to think back a few years to where we first met )

pksystems 01-09-2015 03:33 PM

I recently had something like this happen on eBay. No reserve, got the item for less then 1/2 of regular online price. They didn't bother to ship it and when I filed a request for my part, they refunded my payment immediately. Basically the seller pretended it was lost in shipping.

scottmandue 01-09-2015 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amail (Post 8432603)
If it's a seller with little feedback it's probably a newb mistake on his part. I'd negotiate with him a bit before chucking him under the bus.

If he's got over 100 feedback, toss him right under there.

This was my first impression too (eBay newbee)...

I vaguely recognized the name so I googled it... you guys should too :D

Baz 01-09-2015 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t-tom (Post 8432678)
Do Not Do this.

"In that same communication, let him know if he does not fulfill his end of the deal, you will report him to eBay PLUS leave negative feedback"

Never ever in an eBay email threaten to leave bad feedback. I'm a power seller, Hell I sell on ebay for a living and have for over 10 years. Just email him and tell him you'd like to book for the price you won the auction for. If he says no call eBay and talk to them. There is nothing they can really do they can't make him ship the book to you. But if you threaten him with bad feedback they will not even listen to you.

Did not know this Tom. Thanks for the heads up.

So.....first inform him the rules are the rules and he is obligated by eBay policy to hold up his end (and do not mention anything about feedback).

Then......when he does not hold up his end....whamo.....hit him with the negative feedback!

Works for me.

BTW - I'm at 1,102 FB with 100%, but not a power seller.

scottmandue 01-09-2015 03:39 PM

Challenge him to a cage match... winner gets the book

Sorry, sorry, sorry :)

onlycafe 01-09-2015 04:10 PM

i sent him a polite message detailing my disappointment with his follow through.
i noticed other signed first editions that he sold for under two dollars.

i suggested that he follow his conscience......

we'll see.

thanks for the advice. i appreciate it.

onlycafe 01-09-2015 04:12 PM

i was tempted to just send him this........

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1420852368.jpg

ckelly78z 01-09-2015 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 8432674)
If the book is worth it, give him a break. He must have forgot to place a reserve. Send him 10-15 bucks, no big deal, it's peanuts.

NO, NO, NO, This tool can read the rules just like any other newbie and should worry about following these rules even more so than an established seller in order to gain some good feedback.

I would never expect someone to pay me more money for a mistake that was completely my fault, $17.75 is the cheap way to learn a lesson.

Moses 01-09-2015 04:57 PM

I bought a horse once for $100. I paid for the horse and the farmer said he would deliver the horse on the weekend.

On Saturday the farmer told me my horse had died. I asked for a refund, but he said he'd already spent the money. I told him to bring the horse anyway. I was gonna raffle him off.

I ran into the farmer about a month later. He asked me how my raffle went. I told him it was pretty great! I sold 1000 raffle tickets at $10 a piece. I made nearly $10,000!
He asked me if anybody got pissed off. I told him, "Just the winner. So I gave him his $10 back."

bob deluke 01-10-2015 08:15 AM

Horse
 
Moses;
Coffee up my nose this morning! LOL...You guys crack me up!

scottmandue 01-10-2015 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onlycafe (Post 8432771)
i was tempted to just send him this........

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1420852368.jpg

Hit him with a chair in the parking lot!

asphaltgambler 01-10-2015 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 8432602)
1. Communicate with him that eBay policy and procedures dictate he is bound by the auction outcome and he only has himself to blame for how it ended up

2. In that same communication, let him know if he does not fulfill his end of the deal, you will report him to eBay PLUS leave negative feedback

For that mere $17.75, he should understand it's not worth the crap he would have to endure if he doesn't hold up his end....and ultimately he should just ship you the book and (maybe) learn from his mistake

^^^^^^^^^^While the previous couple of posts are great venting, this^^^^^ is what you should do. I'm longtime Ebay'er with almost 450 transactions while maintaining 100% rating. I've found that calm, polite and reasonable correspondence with said consequences if they fail to follow through, wins every time.

sugarwood 01-12-2015 05:27 AM

I'd move on with my life ... I don't want something where the seller feels ripped off.

sc_rufctr 01-12-2015 05:54 AM

I'd be inclined to negotiate with the seller. The last thing I need is the feeling that I "pinched" something.

(is the book worth $20 to you?)

Yea sure he should have put a reserve on it but he didn't.
At least the seller is being honest. Most people would probably pretend they sent it.

stomachmonkey 01-12-2015 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onlycafe (Post 8432769)
......i noticed other signed first editions that he sold for under two dollars......

Two possibilities.

1) Those are not worth the same as a signed Mick Foley book.

2) This is the guys MO and he does it intentionally.

Considering he has sold several items I'm not buying he's a newb and I'm inclined to think it's option 2.

Either way at this point I would not go through with the purchase for any amount other than what won you the item.

How do you know the signature is even real?

Looking at auctions for Mick Foley autographed merchandise on eBay it looks like Mick has 50 different signatures.:rolleyes:

masraum 01-12-2015 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 8436010)
2) This is the guys MO and he does it intentionally.

Considering he has sold several items I'm not buying he's a newb and I'm inclined to think it's option 2.

Don't auctions with reserves have different fees than auctions with no reserve?

So basically, this guy has a reserve, but doesn't want to pay the fee if his item doesn't sell, so he pulls this crap when it sells for a low price. So basically, he's trying to cheat/steal from eBay? I bet they'd be interested to hear about that.

Screw him, he's a dirtbag.

Eric 951 01-12-2015 08:10 AM

Ask him to honor the auction and the price. If not, then report him to e-bay. He is gaming you--if he thought the book was worth more, he should have placed a reserve or started the auction at a higher price.

Now if it was a signed Ivan Putski, Tommy "Wildfire" Rich or Bruno Sanmartino book, then it would be a different story

:D

1990C4S 01-12-2015 08:14 AM

It was a no reserve auction. He could have put a $20 reserve on the book, he chose not to.

He owes you the book for $2.25.

Don't pay more. If you really want the book tell him to ship it as per the eBay policy. Otherwise just tell him to refund you and move on.

Nothing Mick Foley ever wrote is worth a big hassle.

gtc 01-12-2015 09:59 AM

I've bought a number of first edition or hardback books by real authors for ~$10 in used book stores. $2.25 for a signed book about wrestling seems about right.
Have you looked on amazon for a comparable autographed edition for sale?

stomachmonkey 01-12-2015 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 8436153)
Don't auctions with reserves have different fees than auctions with no reserve?

So basically, this guy has a reserve, but doesn't want to pay the fee if his item doesn't sell, so he pulls this crap when it sells for a low price. So basically, he's trying to cheat/steal from eBay? I bet they'd be interested to hear about that.

Screw him, he's a dirtbag.

Pretty much.

It's like when people used to game the listing fee system by offering expensive "Buy it Now" items for pennies on the dollar but charged exorbitant shipping rates to make up the difference.

While the consumer possibly still got a deal eBay got screwed.

sammyg2 01-12-2015 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 8432723)
This was my first impression too (eBay newbee)...

I vaguely recognized the name so I googled it... you guys should too :D

I would, but have no idea which name you googled.


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