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stomachmonkey 01-13-2015 11:10 AM

Not really but still innovative
 
Chilean Students Design Unstealable Bike

Neat idea for an urban commuter.

Mike80911 01-13-2015 11:15 AM

What if someone just cuts the seat post? Most crooks are very mechanically inclined I think the unstealable claim might be far fetched

stomachmonkey 01-13-2015 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike80911 (Post 8437964)
What if someone just cuts the seat post? Most crooks are very mechanically inclined I think the unstealable claim might be far fetched

Because the bottom of the seat post locks into the bottom split of the down tube.

Also depends on what the seat tube is made out of. Could be solid for all we know which would make it harder, take longer to cut.

You could technically steal the bike but until you break the seat post free from the lock you can't reassemble the bike to be useable.

As the article notes it would be good for parts, which you can steal without going through the hassle of cutting the seat tube.

I think its best advantage may be to encourage a thief to find an easier target.

MikeSid 01-13-2015 01:13 PM

There is always a weak link. In this design, based on the key used, I suspect it is the lock. Drill it with a small cordless. No damage to frame or seat post.

As a creative exercise, this is a great project. As a solution to the problem, it is far from elegant and smacks of a better mousetrap that is no where near as useful as the original.

red-beard 01-13-2015 01:25 PM

Wheels can still be taken.

cashflyer 01-13-2015 02:40 PM

http://assets.goodstatic.com/s3/maga....jpg=s900x1300

Just cut the tree.

Mike80911 01-13-2015 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cashflyer (Post 8438257)

In NYC the bike thieves loosen the street signs so they can be removed from the concrete. When someone locks their bike to one of the signs the thieves simply lift the sign out of the ground and take off with the bike.

Porsche-O-Phile 01-14-2015 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 8437985)



I think its best advantage may be to encourage a thief to find an easier target.


This is always the premise behind effective security. You want to make something not worth the trouble; providing (or taking advantage of) easier targets around is a great way to do that.

vash 01-14-2015 05:32 AM

so the only advantage is that the bike is destroyed if stolen?

BlueSkyJaunte 01-14-2015 07:42 AM

On the first bump my fat corpus would turn that into a pretzel.

island911 01-14-2015 09:21 AM

yep. the down-tube should be kept as the most rigid link, torsionally.

The top tube -which is usually in simple compression- would have been a better choice to disassemble.

BlueSkyJaunte 01-14-2015 09:33 AM

Don't worry, I bet they used computers and stuff.

hickepa2 01-14-2015 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 8437958)
Chilean Students Design Unstealable Bike



Neat idea for an urban commuter.


If you are in a group being chased by a tiger you don't have to outrun the tiger... just outrun one of your colleagues! Same concept.

The bike just needs to be more difficult to steal than the next closest one, thieves will always take the easiest/fastest option.

vmb 01-14-2015 03:20 PM

apparently these are still in production:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1421281171.jpg

herr_oberst 01-14-2015 03:37 PM

hmmmm
 
So, a bike that's essentially a lock, which needs to be disassembled to 'use'
or a u-lock in your back pocket....


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1421282129.jpg


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