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Measles May Be in U.S. to Stay, 15 Years After It Left - Businessweek

I wonder which other diseases, that we conquered after decades of effort, will return?

Any of the ones that the anti-vaxer crowd brings back because they are too stupid to realize how we got rid of them in the first place.

The rest of them come across the southern border.

No prob, between the sanctuary cities and the free emergency rooms, the issue will be solved eventually.

Karma is a *****. California has a lot of Karma floating around.

Exactly, California has more illegal immigrants than all other states combined, these people weren't vaccinated when they got here and still aren't.

Am I to understand from this that you guys pay out of pocket for vaccinations?

That's pretty surprising to me. Admittedly, I don't know how much vaccinations like his cost. However, many of them aren't nearly 100% effective, with the remainder of its effectiveness generated by it's prevalence of use. It's in everybody's best interest to ensure that the neighbour's kid is also vaccinated!

This.

Originally Posted by porsche4life View Post
Any of the ones that the anti-vaxer crowd brings back because they are too stupid to realize how we got rid of them in the first place.

This.

Small potatoes compared to the millions of illegals bring disease into the country as we speak.

oh chit!!! i hope we didnt break down all those ebola tents yet.

But, if you're vaccinated, you're good to go, right? What are you trying to say? Illegals aren't spreading measles to people vaccinated from measles.

This measles outbreak isn't about the illegals - it's about the anti-vaxxers.

Actually, the anti-vaccination trend tends to center around very affluent neighborhoods where the parents are educated, oddly enough. It is not at all centered on poor or immigrant communities although immunization rates in those communities sometimes are lower than the norm due to inadequate access (or the perception of it) to healthcare.

Not vaccinating is a hipster thing. We know a few people that are like that.

They aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer.

The logic is that "Gee, no one gets measles or polio these days, therefore vaccinations are useless things only pushed on us by heartless money-grubbing pharmacetical/war machine conglomerates."

I'd say in many cases the fathers are educated, but the trophy wives are not so much. At least, I assume the trophy wives are not. If they were, they probably wouldn't be going to Jenny McCarthy for medical advice.

Actually, yeah, this has a lot to do with people coming into the country without any screening whatsoever, sorry Mike.

Any kid in this country could get childhood vaccinations for free.

ahhh, you've seen I am Legend right ;)

there is simply no way to know who is coming over the border or what they are bringing with them. dimwit pacific palisades trophy wives hire gautemalan nannies and then act stunned when little britney gets polio.

no one cause, but a perfect storm of stupidity.

Read the article. Over half the cases were in the Amish community. So it must be Dimwit Amish trophy wives hiring diseased wetbacks to watch little Hester while she straps the Louis Vuiton harness on the horse.

The Amish were in Disneyland, Anaheim, who knew. more like Mexican kids without vaccinations. Look at maps for measles right now, Mexico, California, Texas, Arizona are the hot spots. No illegals there

The level of bigotry and racism on this board never ceases to amaze me. LMAO.

If only they could develop a vaccine for that.....sigh.

amen craig....


This place would be rather quiet though...

are you talking about wdfifteen's hatred of the amish? then i agree.

was there something untrue that I said? or you just don't like hearing it?

The rates of non-vaccination in CA schools is shockingly, to me, high. And growing. And CA has a higher than average vasccination rate among the states.

California’s epidemic of vaccine denial, mapped - The Washington Post

How'd they travel that far? Believe me, I've played Oregon Trail and there's a lot of bad stuff that can happen along the way!

To Protect His Son, A Father Asks School To Bar Unvaccinated Children

There's a perspective not often shared. Some kids are unable to be vaccinated. Now this cancer survivor is at risk because parents are exempting their kids from the vaccine.

It is sad that many are so quick to avoid the facts if they could possible be construed as racist. That seems to be the go-to argument when an absolutely insane policy (like letting unscreened folks enter the country at will). It really doesn't matter if they are from Mexico, China, or Ireland. Calling it racism is just a silly, knee-jerk argument to prevent any real adult conversation on the topic.

While the poor vaccination rate is a serious issue, diseases essentially eradicated in this country would not be a problem if we didn't import those diseases from abroad.

We import diseases?

Yes (when we allow unscreened immigrants into our communities). We screen those who enter legally.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/6/diseases-still-problem-illegal-immigrant-families/?page=all

You guys better start carrying yer guns, never know when some illegal is gonna give you measles.

That's racist!

...or mumps, TB, Polio, tuberculosis, chicken pox, dengue fever, swine flu, Enterovirus 68, etc.

Measles case reported Chicago suburb-
Question: Whom did this person catch it from, and the person before him?

Illinois reports year's first measles case - Arlington Heights

The last case of indigenous measles was in 2002, all cases since then have been imported by people traveling to foreign countries and returning as carriers, or foreigners arriving (either legally or illegally) as carriers. In nearly every case of an outbreak, the carriers had not been vaccinated or never had immunity through contracting the disease. A small percentage of cases were found in persons who were vaccinated as the vaccine is not 100% effective in all people. In every outbreak, the spread was epidemic among the population that was not vaccinated, for whatever reasons--religious, moral, ignorance, or lack of medical care. The largest outbreaks prior to the current one, was within domestic communities who chose not to vaccinate, not foreign immigrant communities.

In most cases, the immigrant communities (illegal or otherwise) were protected by the surrounding vaccinated populations, as long as that population maintained a low percentage of non-vaccinated individuals (~<8%.) If measles broke out in the immigrant community, it stayed within that population.

This is not a racist epidemic. The disease is imported by legals and illegals alike, and even by people who have been vaccinated, and has been since its "eradication" in 2002. The only reason it's a concern is because the domestic (legal, if you will) population has been steadily reducing the number of people getting vaccinated. The herd immunity that protects us all has been weakened.

Are illegal immigrants a source of infection? Yes. Are U.S. citizens traveling abroad a source? Yes. Are these groups responsible for introducing the disease to the U.S.? Yes. Are they responsible for the wide spread transmission of the disease? No. That is the responsibility of those who opted not to protect themselves, their children, and their neighbors by refusing to get vaccinated.

Great post, L.J. It pretty much mirrors what I've been reading about on this topic.

Well reasoned and presented thoughts!! What next, apologies in PARF??

Now that measles have spread across the nation and there are over 100 cases in 14 states...it seems that vaccinated adults do not always enjoy complete protection.

https://fortune.com/2015/01/30/measles-outbreak-vaccinated-adult/