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sailchef 02-03-2015 11:44 AM

Passwords and usernames
 
I have a list of passwords and usernames that I have used for various different sites over the last decade;

Its 2 friggen pages long!!!!!!!!!!!


They are all pretty much the same except for the "must include at least one upper and one lower case letter'', "must include at least one number", " must include at least one number and one upper case", "remember passwords are case sensitive", "don't use the same password as your username" etc. etc. etc. etc.

I always have to look them up on the list that sits right next to my computer. How secure is that???


It's a pain in the @zz!


Rant over.

GH85Carrera 02-03-2015 11:51 AM

It is a pain. A good password is not a word in English with random characters and numbers thrown it. It is impossible to remember and a pain to type in something like 4%gibwky&)!18467 and not have typos.

I feel your pain.

I want some magic program - app that is synchronized from my iPhone to my computers that will remember the usernames and passwords for each site. I can't imagine how it would work and be secure with some master key.

Rot 911 02-03-2015 11:56 AM

I use 1Password to keep all of my info on my iPhone. I have the free version. https://agilebits.com/onepassword

stomachmonkey 02-03-2015 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 8469395)
It is a pain. A good password is not a word in English with random characters and numbers thrown it. It is impossible to remember and a pain to type in something like 4%gibwky&)!18467 and not have typos.

I feel your pain.

I want some magic program - app that is synchronized from my iPhone to my computers that will remember the usernames and passwords for each site. I can't imagine how it would work and be secure with some master key.

Actually that stuff exists. Pricey. We used to use it for external corporate access. You carry a fob with an LED readout that is synced to a server. Rolling passcodes. Only good at the time you enter them.

Random numbers and letters are less secure than one would think.

I tell my people to use 3 common words strung together, make one cap and replace a vowel with a number, use 3 for e or 4 for a, and it will satisfy 99% of sites requirements, easy to remember, and most important will be secure long after you have departed this mortal life.

Why Multi-word Phrases Make for More Secure Passwords Than Incomprehensible Gibberish

biosurfer1 02-03-2015 12:03 PM

"thisismypassword" is exponentially better than "%$@EF&743"

Just like the porn industry, it's all about length

aap1966 02-03-2015 12:12 PM

Quote:

I always have to look them up on the list that sits right next to my computer. How secure is that???.
Hey, we have the same thing in our office!

Passwords are just "IT Theatre". IT wants to divert any security issues from itself to the users, so it sets up ridiculous password systems. Not secure (because people write them down), but shifts responsibility for IT security, so they can get back to playing "World of Warcraft".

stomachmonkey 02-03-2015 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by aap1966 (Post 8469447)
Hey, we have the same thing in our office!

Passwords are just "IT Theatre". IT wants to divert any security issues from itself to the users, so it sets up ridiculous password systems. Not secure (because people write them down), but shifts responsibility for IT security, so they can get back to playing "World of Warcraft".

It's not all theatre.

Typically the ones who resist aggressive PW measures are executive management.

They are actually the ones to worry about most.

They use PW's like, the tail number from their plane, the name of their 100 ft sailboat, their dog, etc...

The reason that is problematic is communication groups.

While nice to have I don't need the CFO's PW when I have the Chairmans because they are in the same communication circle. Today's threaded emails will give you what most of your executives are talking about with access to just one of them.

You get two or three accounts and you know everything.

Don Plumley 02-03-2015 12:36 PM

I use DashLane on all my devices, and my wife uses it too. Everything has a different, highly unique password, and I can regenerate new random ones at will. Protects credit card numbers for online ordering as well.

Bill Douglas 02-03-2015 12:42 PM

At work I had to change my passwords, yep about five of them, every few weeks. So I used to write them on the underside of my desk. If I couldn't remember one it was "opps, dropped my pen." and I had it. So top level security known only by me and the cleaner.

wdfifteen 02-03-2015 12:50 PM

I feel your pain. I have a couple of double spaced Word documents of passwords myself.
I may be going overboard on security. I put a line of dashes across the top of the page, then enter the account, username, and password on one line. Then I take a screen shot of the page and split it vertically into three image files. Then I save the image files to a folder on Boxcryptor that is synched to my iPad, phone, and computers. To look up a password I open all three image files and line up the line of dashes to recreate the document. My passwords are pass phrases that are easy for me to remember, but if I forget something I can always look it up.

chocolatelab 02-03-2015 01:00 PM

I use Msecure app.

Works well for keeping track.

Passwords are a pain in the ass.

I have at least 15 different user names and password with work, then add personal, the wifes (she can't remember shizt) then Bryces.

Holy cow its a pain

JJ 911SC 02-03-2015 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 8469416)
... I tell my people to use 3 common words strung together, make one cap and replace a vowel with a number, use 3 for e or 4 for a, and it will satisfy 99% of sites requirements...[/url]

Its the 1% that kill me. All my financial password are a variation of each other except that my Master Card Capitol One Costco card (American Express lost the contract in Canada) has a limit of 8 characters!!!

To make matter worst, when I called them to have my ending period moved from the 1st month for a few days on either side they say it could not be moved. Told them to really watch the activity on the card to grind down to an halt as I'll only use it to get in Costco but will pay with another Master Card :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

stealthn 02-03-2015 05:12 PM

Keypass is another good one for keeping them secure and findable


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