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Racerbvd 02-12-2015 07:30 PM

Autonomic Nervous Dysfunction
 
Thoughts...

afterburn 549 02-12-2015 07:40 PM

The drink just jumps to my lips ?

Nostril Cheese 02-12-2015 07:49 PM

Stop drinking.

sc_rufctr 02-12-2015 08:03 PM

and get checked out for diabetes.

Racerbvd 02-12-2015 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese (Post 8484838)
Stop drinking.

Did that in 2008

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and get checked out for diabetes.
Have, don't have it, but test results confirmed AND:(
So, I won't be driving Barber next month:(

snbush67 02-12-2015 09:51 PM

Diet, excercize, sleep. Health should be your first priority. Manage stress.

Check your house, office, etc. for mold or something else that could cause similiar symptoms.

DonDavis 02-12-2015 10:36 PM

Are you on statins?

The Great Cholesterol Myth | Dr. Stephen Sinatra

I listened to this book on my Taos, NM work trip last month.
Fascinating and relevant to all men's health.

afterburn 549 02-12-2015 11:50 PM

I have a Scientist friend . She says the cholesterol is all hype and means nothing.
According to her information when something goes grown in the body the C level is auto raised as a cell protection..
So, lowering the C level is stupid.
Next, do a read on hypertension .
According to everything i have read the mortality rate is the same on the pills or not...
I have no clue, but she is right about most stuff that i cant see.

afterburn 549 02-12-2015 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 8484852)
and get checked out for diabetes.

Again diabetes can be beat with diet

sc_rufctr 02-13-2015 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 8484868)
Did that in 2008



Have, don't have it, but test results confirmed AND:(
So, I won't be driving Barber next month:(

I was sorry to read this. All the best with your treatment.

sc_rufctr 02-13-2015 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 8484972)
Again diabetes can be beat with diet

That's true. "Fitness beats diabetes"

Diabetes runs in my family. My older brother has type 2 but he's managing it well.
I walk most days and stay away from crappy, processed or sugar laden foods and anything white. (bread, potatoes, rice etc)

For instance... If I eat a Mc Donald's burger my B.S. level goes from sub100mg/dl (5.5 mmol/L) up to 180mg/dl (9.9mmol/L) 2 hours after.

afterburn 549 02-13-2015 12:53 AM

I america we are told to take a pill for everything rather then take the cure.

sc_rufctr 02-13-2015 01:38 AM

There's more money in pills.

ckelly78z 02-13-2015 03:36 AM

Autonomic Nervous Dysfunction A.N.D. ?? A.N.D. it sounds like you're waiting impatiaently for something.

pavulon 02-13-2015 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 8484818)
Thoughts...

What are your symptoms and what testing lead to that conclusion/diagnosis?

DonDavis 02-13-2015 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 8484971)
I have a Scientist friend . She says the cholesterol is all hype and means nothing...
...So, lowering the C level is stupid.

Exactly. Sugar is the real enemy.

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Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 8484988)
I america we are told to take a pill for everything rather then take the cure.

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 8485002)
There's more money in pills.

^^Yup, yup.

What's the biggest selling medication of all time? Lipitor.
There are no studies that show lowering cholesterol prevents heart disease.
Statins are great at lowering cholesterol, but the side effects are widespread and manifest themselves in many ways. Memory loss and sexual dysfunction are on the list.

The video below does a good job poking at the ludicrous nature of pharmaceutical sales. Medical students are courted from the earilest of Medical school and it continues throughout their careers. Reps can track exactly how much Docs prescribe their product and then use that info to get the doc to prescribe more.

I'm not saying all Docs are bad..mm-kay?

It's sad, really.
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Messing with cholesterol levels can backfire. There's a lot more pertinent info than just the TC number ( Total Cholesterol ). The book I referenced was eye-opening and it very clearly illustrates the necessity to thoroughly know what your levels are and how to naturally tweak if needed.

jyl 02-13-2015 08:01 AM

Lot of data on effect of lowering LDL cholesterol, using various drugs. As I've read it, the data pretty clearly shows that lowering LDL reduces cardiovascular (CV) events, and that using statins reduces CV events.

So there is a debate about whether doctors should aim to bring every patient down to a certain LDL number without regard to the patient's CV risk, or whether doctors should simply treat every patient who is at high CV risk without targeting a specific LDL number. Recent medical (AHA) guidelines recommend the latter.

There is also a debate about, if you're going to target a LDL number, how low that target should be. Recent large trial IMPROVE-IT showed that adding another drug on top of statins, to bring LDL from 70 to 50, did reduce CV events but only modestly.

My personal conclusion - not a doctor! I read this stuff for work purposes - is that if my LDL was clearly high (>150) I would bring it down, preferably through diet and exercise and not smoking and other lifestyle changes, then resorting to drugs (statins or other) if necessary. If my LDL was normal or borderline (100-120) I - personally - would not get too fussed about it.

Complicating this is that there are different types of LDL, small/dense vs large/not dense, and the CV risk comes from the former, but usually the LDL test you get is just total LDL not the subfractions.

Effects on 11-year mortality and morbidity of lowering LDL cholesterol with simvastatin for about 5 years in 20

20 536 patients at high risk of vascular and non-vascular outcomes were allocated either 40 mg simvastatin daily or placebo, using minimised randomisation. Mean in-trial follow-up was 5·3 years (SD 1·2), and post-trial follow-up of surviving patients yielded a mean total duration of 11·0 years (SD 0·6). The primary outcome of the long-term follow-up of HPS was first post-randomisation major vascular event, and analysis was by intention to treat.

During the in-trial period, allocation to simvastatin yielded an average reduction in LDL cholesterol of 1·0 mmol/L and a proportional decrease in major vascular events of 23% (95% CI 19–28; p<0·0001), with significant divergence each year after the first. During the post-trial period (when statin use and lipid concentrations were similar in both groups), no further significant reductions were noted in either major vascular events (risk ratio [RR] 0·95 [0·89–1·02]) or vascular mortality (0·98 [0·90–1·07]).

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/835030

The study [IMPROVE-IT] included more than 18 000 patients from 39 countries who were stable following ACS (<10 days). Patients were randomized to one of two treatment strategies: simvastatin 40 mg alone or simvastatin 40 mg plus ezetimibe 10 mg. They were followed for a minimum of 2.5 years or until the study investigators accrued 5250 clinical events.

At baseline, the mean LDL-cholesterol level among the ACS patients was 95 mg/dL in both treatment arms. With simvastatin 40 mg, LDL-cholesterol levels were reduced to 69.9 mg/dL at 1 year. The addition of ezetimibe 10 mg to simvastatin further lowered LDL-cholesterol levels, to 53.2 mg/dL at 1 year. Over 7 years, there remained a significant difference between the two treatments in the achieved LDL-cholesterol levels.

Over a period of 7 years, the addition of ezetimibe to simvastatin 40 mg reduced the primary end point—a composite of cardiovascular death, MI, unstable angina requiring rehospitalization, coronary revascularization, or stroke—by 6.4% when compared with patients who received simvastatin alone (P =0.016). The absolute reduction in risk over 7 years was 2.0%, with 32.7% in the ezetimibe/simvastatin arm experiencing a primary end point compared with 34.7% in the simvastatin arm.

Don Ro 02-13-2015 08:42 AM

I've been on many of them all over the past 3 yrs. Back in 2009 my triglycerides were so high they couldn't get a cholesterol reading.
Matters improved after my 2011 quad by-pass and then statins to the point where my chol. showed in the 300's.
On my last visit to my cardio a few months ago he came into the room w/my lab results and said that a mistake was made - the lab sent the wrong data.
.
He then asked if I was still on ABC drug..."No". How about DEF drug? "No." How about XYZ drug? "No." ...etc.
Doc: "Who took you off?"
Me: "I did. To many nasty side effects."
Doc: "Well, what are you doing?"
Me: "I'm taking 4000 mg of L-Arginine / L-Citrulline and one 500 mg of Slo-Niacin per day and I've been working out, eating well, and have lost 15 lbs."
Doc: "Whatever your doing, keep doing that because your cholesterol is that of a 13 yr. old."
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Now, I also take Vit. D, E, Ester C, Super Omega-3 Fish Oil, and a baby aspirin every morning.
.
BTW, when I gain weight my diabetes symptoms return.

Racerbvd 02-13-2015 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by snbush67 (Post 8484922)
Diet, excercize, sleep. Health should be your first priority. Manage stress.

Check your house, office, etc. for mold or something else that could cause similiar symptoms.

I have been dealing with health issues since 2008, sugar level is fine, as is my cholesterol,
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Doc: "Whatever your doing, keep doing that because your cholesterol is that of a 13 yr. old."
.
My Doc tells me the same thing.
lowering, I walk & play on my BMX bikes. My doctor ordered a test to check for this, my main issues lack of balance, something I have worked hard to develop as a kid.

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My ankles are not swollen, thanks to my acupuncture, breathing flows better, just isn't produced, his biggest concern is that my blood pressure can go from normal to Zero faster than a 918 goes zero to 60:(
He told me to avoid high places, not to climb ladders or trees

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And while I can still instruct, I can't drive on track for a while (so I'm thinking about selling the 81SC track project roller:( and bits:(
He is researching a rehabilitation program for me, told me to start wearing compression stockings:eek:


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I'm researching herbal cures, my Dr is holding off on pills until he sees how the stockings & rehab works

Tobra 02-13-2015 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 8484972)
Again diabetes can be beat with diet

Most of the time this is true.

Keep it up with the support stockings, I think I am wearing those exact ones right now.


Try acupuncture, no seriously. Find an old Chinese medicine guy that knows their business.


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