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Fracking, Oh The Crap People Believe!
Dangers of Fracking
There is not one 'fact' that is correct in this amusing little cartoon yet I have head a bunch of people send me to let me know how bad fracking is. I will give the first person a Coaster and treat them to dinner and drinks if you were to take each point and refute it publically! (hint...all the real facts are in Fracking: The Operations and Environmental Consequences of Hydraulic Fracturing: Michael D. Holloway, Oliver Rudd: 9781118496329: Amazon.com: Books)
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That book cost $164! There best be some photos of neked ladies in there.
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More reason for the US Gov. to allow the construction of Keystone XL Pipeline from Canada to the Gulf of Mexico.
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So What is it? Hydraulic fracturing, or “fracking”, is the process of drilling and injecting fluid into the ground at a high pressure in order to fracture shale rocks to release natural gas inside. Is this not factual?
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If you are saying that there are absolutely no known problems with fracking, please reiterate.
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They don't leave chemicals in open pits to evaporate?
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I sat at my road for 15 minutes last night waiting to turn out on to the highway while Water trucks were backed up as far as I could see waiting to turn .
Now where is my coaster? I'll split dinner with you.
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I guess that people believe all sorts of idiotic stuff. I've heard that if you live close to cracking sites, water tastes better and cancer rates go down.
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So I am confused. Do you think fracking is good?
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I live in western Wisconsin, a by-product of fracking is frac-sand mining. Besides the environmental problems with silica dust, we have hundreds of big trucks pounding our county roads into dust. The BS that these mines, many are foreign-owned, claim in increases in property taxes paid, employment, and contributions to local economies are all lies. Just greedy landowners that don't care about their neighbors, but, it fits in with that 'little corporal', Scott Walker and his gang. Wisconsin has drought conditions, and these operators are putting in super wells to wash the sand. We're talking 500 gallons per minute, and the retention ponds are given little oversight. Plenty of proof with these eyes and others, that oil-fracking and it's subsidiary, frac-sand mining, are ruining this country. We got ours, you can't have any, which is their motto as well as for the Republican 'party'.
Screw the XL pipeline, Christie went to Ottowa and Mexico City to discuss 'North Americanism', and extension of exceptionalism it you will. The Republicon idea is to exploit all three countries in a fight against big Russia, you know, your favorite dictator, Putin. The GOP is going to put this idea on paper for the 2016 election, you're going to hear about it. The downside? Plenty, Putin is not going to roll over, using oil as a weapon. And, the clowns driving this car are going to gut what remaining regulations to keep Big Oil in check. Let's say, opening BLM lands to fracking for instance. Again, the Cons don't care about the XL for the tar sands, and BS on jobs, etc., they only care about the strength in numbers game. Stay tuned.
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I'd like to know how the fracking solution I'm pumping down to 13,000 ft. migrates itself up, against gravity, to contaminate a water well that's drilled down 30-50ft.
Info for this animation was provided by Gasland: The Movie. This film is riddled with misinformation, propaganda, and outright lies. Been proven time and time again. I have never seen 400 water trucks lined up to frack a well anywhere in the area I conduct operations (Haynesville Shale, NW Louisiana). Traffic? Sure. Blocking up the roads? No. No one in our area can set their kitchen tap on fire, nor am I aware of any reports of contaminated water wells or contaminated watershed. There are no open disposal pits anywhere I've seen. I've said it before, who will these people cry to when they can no longer cook on their Viking range. Everyone knows that Matt Damon is a Oil and Gas drilling expert... Also, I'd like to see one of theses Natural Gas Barrels. Natural gas is priced by the BTU (British Thermal Unit) or per Thousand Cubic Feet, not by the barrel. That's how oil is priced, dumbass. Uranium and radium in fracking solution?? Really?? How does that fracking company get their hands on elements regulated by the NRC?? I have never seen a NRC truck at a well site, at any time. Ever. These alarmists act like fracking started in 2005 or so. It's been going on for decades. Plenty of decades. Carter (Workin' real hard for a coaster...) |
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It just depends on whose ox is being gored.
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My opposition to fracking is more economic than environmental. I think anyone with a lick of sense can tell that the economy is actually not robust. When you look at our debt, aging population, and labor participation rates, its clear were not firing on all cylinders. So were using absurdly cheap energy to add nitrous to the system. Its just another band aid.
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Hydraulic fracturing, or “fracking”, is the process of injecting fluid and suspended solids into a well at a high pressure, in order to fracture rock and thus increase the permeability of a petroleum bearing strata in the vicinity of the well. I got an undergrad degree in Geology 30 odd years ago. Hydraulic fracturing was a common practice at that time. "Fracking" was an evolution of the much older (and less controllable, more hazardous) practice of "shooting" wells with nitroglycerin. I never worked in oil and gas (I gladly yield the floor to comments from qualified petroleum geologists) but as I recall it primarily involves sand and water. The water creates the pressure, and the sand serves to fill in and wedge open the resulting fractures. The "chemicals" that cause so much panic, are for the most part pretty common and naturally occurring things whose purpose is to adjust the specific gravity/viscosity of the sand/water mix so the sand stays in suspension until it winds up where it is intended. Pretty sure no $multi-billion$ oilfield service company is going to risk jeopardizing its profits by selling regulated hazardous substances when there is plenty of inert stuff that works as well or better. All kind of a cool exercise in physics, if you ask me. These people that get all worked up about this stuff are idiots. Last edited by Daves911L; 02-14-2015 at 12:52 PM.. |
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'These people that get all worked up about this stuff are idiots.'
Thank god your 30 year old degree in not oil came to this conclusion. Pfffffft.
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You better figure it out, -ya keep gettin dimmer with each post. All you do is spew liberal propaganda. rjp
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I think he was referring to Daves911L post:
Thanks for having my back though!
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Sometimes you need a band-aid. We are so far behind on sustainable energy that we need something to prop the economy up. If fracked oil and gas revenue is tapped for sustainable energy research and construction it could be a net positive. OTOH If yet another opportunity to minimize the use of fossil fuel is squandered we are doomed. My money is on doomed, but I've bet on ugly horses before.
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