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afterburn 549 02-16-2015 10:38 AM

I can see the problem there....

Norm K 02-16-2015 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 8489726)
To preface;
Over on a dodge forum there is mostly do it "my way", "dads way" or some other "experts way" of doing things.
So i suggested we all back up and learn to answer questions and advise with some validity, Rather then the Parrot answers with ambiguous results .
My paragraph was thrown off by the mods at hand becuse it was said not understandable and no one else (except 4 people could read it .)
So i ask, what is wrong with it?
It follows below -
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The confluence of the Parrot(ing ) professor Problem:
As I / we , walk the tight rope here between sophomoric and loyalist I have to admit it is a challenge to broach certain subjects.
Lately I have had to clinch my teeth look for pseudo ways of presenting a logical "control " at the risk of the crowd with painted stripes.
It does in fact become a little jaundiced to booth parties evolved , where one is on the offence for no reason and the other screaming what they have not ever really known as a defense and will even gather even others for the witch hunt.
So many times a new thought to those here albeit is a proven scientific law, is thumbed at like the catholic church did to Galileo.
With out asking one question, found guilty, and a conviction is due handed over..
Pretty sad that periodic tables have to be proven over and over again to whom who present themselves as teachers of such.
Or, proof of the evidence is lots of times scoffed at by those who have not ever climbed over the outer edge of the box.
They, by Merrily repeating so called known answers propagating unknown facts is a diesel religion I and others have noticed here.
As a test,- if the repeaters of much have not ever thought about elementary things like piston speed i would suggest they and we all hit the books and teach rather then scold others for being wrong just because they have not the ability to figure out the simple equation and principals involved.
I am suggesting rather then putting dwn said thoughts and being parrots, that i, we answer with some "known" values, or at least a postulation that points to your theory.
Not just saying it was said the earth is the center of the universe or Cummins is too.There for believe and shut up.

I had a few minutes, Burn, so I went through your post. This isn't what I would have said or how I likely would've said it. Rather, it's my best interpretation of what I think you were trying to say.



It can be challenging here at times to broach certain subjects without seeming to offend someone.

It seems that when there's a disagreement, rather being willing to discuss it, some people resort to virtual tantrums in the apparent belief the the louder they yell, and the harder they pound their keyboards, the more merit their argument has. Some will even enlist the help of others who agree with them and begin a renewed, united assault.

It's pretty clear that some folks will dismiss out of hand, a new idea or a different way of doing things for but a single reason; "It's the way I've always done it".

These people don't investigate the alternate method and certainly don't bother to give it a try. Rather, they seem to have the attitude that the new way is wrong because it's wrong ... and that's that. It seems the very idea of trying something new is almost sacrilege to them - their actual religion being that of happily and blindly adhering to the status quo. And I'm not alone in thinking this, as others have taken note of it as well.

Rather than berate someone for possessing less knowledge on a given subject, we should all look into it in more detail, then collaborate with one another so that everyone can benefit from our findings. After all, none of us was born an expert on the subject.

I have no problem with people asking for information, even evidence as to how the new idea or method improves on time-honored ones. I do have a problem with unwarranted scorn, particularly when it comes from someone whose entire argument is nothing more than some version of, as I noted earlier, "I do it this way because I've always done it this way, and you should just shut up and do it my way too".



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afterburn 549 02-16-2015 10:50 AM

Concise and to the point. I like it
Thanx
May i steal it ?

Norm K 02-16-2015 10:52 AM

I didn't proof it well at all, but feel free.

ckelly78z 02-16-2015 10:59 AM

Wow, what a difference thanks to nkowi.

In the future, proper puncuation, and sentence breaks make all the difference in the world. As you said, concise and to the point.

afterburn 549 02-16-2015 11:22 AM

stolen

MRM 02-16-2015 01:19 PM

Like most people, I didn't really learn how to write until I had been working for a few years. Of course I thought I knew how to write, but it wasn't until I had been schooled by people who really did write clearly that I picked up better habits.

It is not hard to write well. Following 20% of the rules gets you 80% of the way. Here are a couple of pointers.

Sentences should be short and contain a single thought. The first word is capitalized and there is a period at the end. Don't worry about any other punctuation if you don't know how to use it properly. Capital letters to begin a sentence and a period at the end gets you about 90% of the way there. Anyone who can't forgive the last 10% is too uptight for you to write to anyway.

Write sentences that relate together until you complete your thought. That is a paragraph. Paragraphs are separated by a hard stop. Paragraphs are the stop signs of reading. If you don't place them properly the words will keep piling up until they make the reader's eye crash.

Do not capitalize any word other than the first word in the sentence unless it is a proper noun. A proper noun is a name like Bill Smith, Winchester Cathedral, or the United States of America. Words like bill, state or cathedral are common nouns so they don't get capitalized. The State of Wisconsin is a proper noun. But saying that you live in a cold weather state and have a big heating bill does not require any capitalization. Do not capitalize a word just because it seems important. If in doubt, don't capitalize.

Apostrophes are easy to use properly. For the word "its" or "it's" you use apostrophes as a contraction of "it is". If it makes sense to say "is" instead of the apostrophe, you use "it's". It's that easy.

Likewise, you use an apostrophe as a contraction of "has" or "have" to show something is possessive. Saying "Bill's car is fast," means that Bill has a car that's (that is) fast. If you can't say "has" in place of the 's, it means you should not use an apostrophe. Do not tack an apostrophe on words just because they end in an s. The word "cars" doesn't need an apostrophe unless you're talking about the car's (car has) tires.

After you write something, read it back to yourself. Does it make sense to someone who has no other information than what you have just written? If not, edit your work until it does.

And finally, spell check is everywhere. It is free. Use it. It's (it is) not perfect but its programming is very good.

McLovin 02-16-2015 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRM (Post 8490023)

It is not hard to write well.

I disagree.

It's not easy to write well, and most (+90%) do it very poorly.


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