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masraum 02-19-2015 12:29 PM

Don't fight with marines
 
It's not likely to end well. But at least it won't take up too much of your time

Guy Tries to Have a Marine Fight , Quickly Finds Out Why That's a Bad Idea

GH85Carrera 02-19-2015 12:33 PM

Yea, that is not a good idea.

HardDrive 02-19-2015 01:20 PM

That was great.

jorian 02-19-2015 01:40 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong but that was no Marine. That windmill, flailing chit would relegate him to another round of basic training.

Tobra 02-19-2015 02:23 PM

That was not a Marine, no way.

ROTC maybe, if that were a genuine Jarhead, that fight would have been a LOT shorter.

Bill Douglas 02-19-2015 02:26 PM

Ha, it will teach that posturing little idiot a lesson.

A punch from a big guy is like being kicked by a horse. I don't think the big guy was a great fighter, but one punch would stupefy the little guy a a few more punches to make things perfectly clear to him.

Nostril Cheese 02-19-2015 03:05 PM

I don't believe a Marine would get involved in something like this, let alone be filmed doing it.

I did a bit of boxing back in the day and sparred with a Marine friend once. Got my ass handed to me in no time and he wasnt even putting forth any effort.

The guy in the video got a lucky shot.

pavulon 02-19-2015 05:38 PM

Future epic beard guy vs. just another punk heading for a ride in the "ambilance".

Hugh R 02-19-2015 07:46 PM

I was in the USMC 40+ years ago. They don't teach you to box/fist fight, they teach you how to kill.

It isn't about kicking the guys ass, its about killing him (War, right?). Nothing in Parris Island for boot camp or Camp Lejeune for advanced training on "fighting". It was all about killing. Hand-to-hand was a hit to the windpipe or gouging out an eye, if it had to come to that. It was more about a K-bar knife to the heart, kidneys, liver, spinal cord at the neck, etc.

Google "naked strangle hold". You get behind someone, wrap your right arm around their neck from behind, lock your left and right hands in a clasp and drop you and him flat on the ground, you WILL break his neck. Doesn't matter if you're 150 lbs and he's 250 lbs. He will be dead, as long as you can drop both of you to the ground.

War is ugly business. I for one am glad that there are Marines, and others, who do the ugly business that most people can't imagine from their comfortable armchairs watching the evening news and being Monday morning quarterbacks.

HHI944 02-19-2015 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh R (Post 8495630)
I was in the USMC 40+ years ago. They don't teach you to box/fist fighting, they teach you how to kill.

It isn't about kicking the guys ass, its about killing him. Not much in Parris Island for boot camp or Camp Lejeune for advanced training on "fighting". It was all about killing. Hand-to-hand was a hit to the windpipe or gouging out an eye, if it had to come to that. It was more about a K-bar knife to the heart, kidneys, liver, spinal cord at the neck, etc.

The Corps these days is quite fond of their unarmed combative program, MCMAP (Marine Corps Martical Arts Program). They even have 'belt' ranks for your progression through the program.

Norm K 02-19-2015 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh R (Post 8495630)
I was in the USMC 40+ years ago. They don't teach you to box/fist fighting, they teach you how to kill.

It isn't about kicking the guys ass, its about killing him. Not much in Parris Island for boot camp or Camp Lejeune for advanced training on "fighting". It was all about killing. Hand-to-hand was a hit to the windpipe or gouging out an eye, if it had to come to that. It was more about a K-bar knife to the heart, kidneys, liver, spinal cord at the neck, etc.

It's evolved a bit since then. I received a tad bit of close combat training in the Corps, and was rather good at it, but it clearly wasn't as advanced as it it now. Check out MCMAP; my oldest son reached 4th degree black belt during his eight years and my middle son is also a black belt (forget which level). The Marine Corps recognized that most fights go to the ground within the first few seconds and designed MCMAP with that in mind. I can tell you first-hand: it wouldn't be fun to mix it up with either of my sons in anger. And that goes for a whole new generation of Marines ...

Hugh R 02-19-2015 08:27 PM

Semper Fi my friend. Yeah for me it was 40+ years ago. Things change. Again, it goes to not fighting the enemy, but killing them. I doubt that mantra has changed much.

Rusty914s 02-19-2015 08:31 PM

That's not a fight, that's one huge guy beating up some stupid little guy.

speeder 02-19-2015 08:46 PM

First off, there is not necessarily any correlation between being in the USMC and being a great fist fighter other than the fact that they are generally in great physical condition and mentally tough. There are millions of tough guys who are not in the Marines and there are plenty of Marines who are brave and great war fighters but not big physical brutes.

As for that encounter, the big guy seemed to be connecting pretty well to me, his punches were all landing. The black kid might not have been tough at all and we don't even know the genesis of the fight from that video. Typical internet garbage. :rolleyes:

kach22i 02-20-2015 03:48 AM

I had the sound off, looked like the guy on the right was the aggressor by coming over and hitting the guy without a shirt.

He might be facing criminal and civil charges if this wasn't some staged show.

Racerbvd 02-20-2015 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 8495853)
I had the sound off, looked like the guy on the right was the aggressor by coming over and hitting the guy without a shirt.

He might be facing criminal and civil charges if this wasn't some staged show.

Coming from a loud mouthed runt, no one is surprised that you would side with another loud mouth runt.

Rusty914s 02-20-2015 04:57 AM

I would add, don't square up with a guy 3 times your size since usually that won't end well.

*little guy never had a chance to square up, too slow.

ted 02-20-2015 05:50 AM

that was kinda wicked....his first haymaker misses but he immediately throws a back hand and catches the guy.

ThomO 02-20-2015 06:05 AM

there is this thing called the laws of physics when a smaller object gets hit by a larger object the smaller object generaly looses

Racerbvd 02-20-2015 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ThomO (Post 8496033)
there is this thing called the laws of physics when a smaller object gets hit by a larger object the smaller object generaly looses

Hi Thom,
Nice meeting you the other day, I enjoyed my shop tour..


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