poor management
 

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anyone ever ask for a new boss/ supervisor? go to their manager and ask that they be replaced by whomever because anyone could be better? have you heard or been a part of a team that got together and petitioned for better management?

if so how did it work out?

How it works out is dependent on who else higher up the food chain has figured out it was

a) a bad hire,

b) has the cojones to admit it was bad hire

Professional suicide?

Never asked for the replacement of a supervisor, but around thirty years ago, we were working on a project under the supervision of a fellow I could barely stand. He was the sort who wore people down so they finally acquiesced just to get him to shut up and leave them alone.
I took a different tack and managed to work my own way. If he complained, I would simple point out the work was done and I was now doing something else.
Toward the end of the project the boss asked me how I was making out on the job with L. I told him I didn't mind not being in charge, as long as I was in control.

I'm glad those days are over.
Best
Les

Wanted to, but as George Harrison (or was it Ecclesiastes?) said, all thing must pass...

This.

Less than one year on the job at a former mega-bank (Wachovia)...I did it "on my own", but a whole (irreplaceable) team of SUPER techies was ready to walk out the door. Result was IMMEDIATE and effective (he was removed within a day or so)....

No suicide here...several promotions and I left as an AVP (though still a youngin') a few years later....YMMV.

I knew there wasn't a chance of getting a replacement administrator where I worked long ago, but I did tell that administrator to "get some balls and get out there & solve the problem" once. He was mad at me for a couple of years but couldn't do anything about it.

I have and it is. I had to be the one to leave. I made out much better in the long run.

Yea.. professional suicide.
We have all had worthless bosses and I would not in all your greatness and honesty try to
convince a supervisor to get rid of some *********.

Karma has some valid proof with this.
Many crappy bosses end up getting the ax.

When a liar, lies and we let them... they get bolder and keep lying.
Eventually they "unmask' their selves and are fired.

This guy will get it in the end. When? Maybe a month or five years but he will show his/her true
self and get tossed.

Don't try to make things honest.
Get out... Move on and don't look back.

This chump will fall and when he does, you will be light years past it.
Don't be scared of making a job move.
I have made many because of your post topic and I sleep good at night.

It is not easy but life is not supposed to be some nice entitlement that removes you from
these issues. Keep fighting and go forward and F&ck the people that get in your way.
Good Luck.

It completely depends on the culture of the organization. If it is one that values the emerging workforce, has high standards for leaders as coaches, and believes that leaders primary role is to inspire high performance, then you have a chance. The approach of choice is a letter to the CEO.

You'd be rolling the dice that the next guy up didn't like your manager.

In my first job out of college the manager was a micro-managing psycho. If I wasn't at my desk there would be a snide sticky note. Depsite my being more productive (coding so easily measured) than anyone on the team, it wasn't about that. It was about control.

Anyway - Everyone put on her team quit within a year. ...yet the VP did nothing. ...because she got results... Just washed everyone out. Maybe that was the plan? Dunno.

I think you'd be much better off applying for another internal job.

Ditto. Look for an internal transfer or a new job.