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Racerbvd 03-11-2015 07:11 PM

Hell no!!!

look 171 03-11-2015 07:14 PM

Nicest house on the block? bad guys aren't dumb

porsche4life 03-11-2015 07:18 PM

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Nicest house on the block? bad guys aren't dumb
With Porsches coming and going? Hell no.

flyenby 03-11-2015 08:00 PM

Location...Location...Location. You can change anything but that

rusnak 03-11-2015 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by group911@aol.co (Post 8526432)
Absolutely. I've always said to follow the gays to find the next up and coming area.
Building early in the edgy areas is the best way to maximize your investment potential and by being vocal in the neighborhood groups you can lead the area to a being a great place.

Posing as a hippie do-gooder community activist while really trying to look out for your dollar return?

Double, triple Hell No!

BRPORSCHE 03-11-2015 08:40 PM

This is a good tough one. Heights? Already priced out. Oak Forrest - just missed the boat. Eado - no grocery stores that are relatively close.

You watching the race on Sunday at a reasonable time? I'll bring the beer (water for me) and we can chat.

group911@aol.co 03-11-2015 08:58 PM

You betcha. It's worked for the last 30 years. Most bad neighborhoods are just short a few good people.
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Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 8526607)
Posing as a hippie do-gooder community activist while really trying to look out for your dollar return?

Double, triple Hell No!


rusnak 03-11-2015 09:03 PM

Making money in real estate is about timing. You have to make hay while the sun shines. What you don't do is plow money into a property that is in decline. You look for property that has a longer than normal life cycle. Usually that means being near property that is not replaced in our life time, such as a regional hospital, a freeway, huge retail complex, entertainment, university, etc.

You are not going to make money investing in a ghetto.

Scuba Steve 03-12-2015 03:44 AM

It sounds like something I'd be up for, but we really don't like suburbia and traffic/chain everything followed by the inevitable flight to the new up and coming outer growth layer a few years later.

slow&rusty 03-12-2015 06:59 AM

David - How close to downtown would you like to live? How large a garage (3 car suffice for example?).

I was in the same conundrum when I bought my house in Jersey Village, but a big driver was a solid neighborhood, a price I could afford and the garage. It took me over a year to find the right place, but they are out there.

David 03-12-2015 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by slow&rusty (Post 8527063)
David - How close to downtown would you like to live? How large a garage (3 car suffice for example?).

I was in the same conundrum when I bought my house in Jersey Village, but a big driver was a solid neighborhood, a price I could afford and the garage. It took me over a year to find the right place, but they are out there.

I'd like to be close enough to see the downtown skyline. Ideally 4-6 car garage and about 2,500 sqft living space.

David 03-12-2015 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BRPORSCHE (Post 8526634)
This is a good tough one. Heights? Already priced out. Oak Forrest - just missed the boat. Eado - no grocery stores that are relatively close.

You watching the race on Sunday at a reasonable time? I'll bring the beer (water for me) and we can chat.

Oak Forrest is reasonable price wise but farther out than I'd like. Heights... about $400k for 5,000 sqft lot :(. EaDo (east of downtown) still a little transitional but already about $250 or more for a 5,000 sqft lot.

I'd really like to pay cash for the lot so I don't have to deal with a lot loan which seems troublesome. Any tips on getting a lot loan would be greatly appreciated. My understanding is they're high interest and short period.

craigster59 03-12-2015 07:51 AM

There's a reason "Location, location, location" is the mantra of the real estate and business industries.

rcooled 03-12-2015 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 8526652)
you are not going to make money investing in a ghetto.

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Originally Posted by beygon (Post 8526520)
how much time to you have, why waste it there.

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group911@aol.co 03-12-2015 08:27 AM

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you are not going to make money investing in a ghetto.
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how much time to you have, why waste it there.
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Some people will never get it. Do your homework and go for it.

ckelly78z 03-12-2015 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 8526292)
Personally if you don't really care about a suburban "neighborhood" vibe look for a dual use zoned property in a light industrial / commercial area and convert the space.

This ^^^^^ What's wrong with doing a reno on an industrial space that has a large garage area on the ground floor with a wide open loft style modern space up above. Usually, these spaces already have a service elevator installed, and might be surprisingly low prices because of recent lack of use.

rcooled 03-12-2015 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by group911@aol.co (Post 8527211)
Some people will never get it. Do your homework and go for it.

One needs to be extremely careful when considering a move like this. An area that's attracting gays & artists, and which might be on the path to 'gentrification', may not be where the OP wants to live. And even if this up & coming area happens to make the short list, how long will it take before it turns around? How long would he be willing to walk/drive thru dilapidated buildings, streets full of trash, graffiti, abandoned cars, etc. everytime he leaves his house?
Yes, there is potential for something good to happen here, but it takes an intimate knowledge of local RE trends, and most of all, time. Even assuming that he does pick the right area, does the OP have 10, 15 or even 20 years to wait for the transformation to fully take hold? Don't be so quick to tell him to just "go for it"...making the wrong move now could make for a truly miserable retirement.

group911@aol.co 03-12-2015 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rcooled (Post 8527296)
One needs to be extremely careful when considering a move like this. An area that's attracting gays & artists, and which might be on the path to 'gentrification', may not be where the OP wants to live. And even if this up & coming area happens to make the short list, how long will it take before it turns around? How long would he be willing to walk/drive thru dilapidated buildings, streets full of trash, graffiti, abandoned cars, etc. everytime he leaves his house?
Yes, there is potential for something good to happen here, but it takes an intimate knowledge of local RE trends, and most of all, time. Even assuming that he does pick the right area, does the OP have 10, 15 or even 20 years to wait for the transformation to fully take hold? Don't be so quick to tell him to just "go for it"...making the wrong move now could make for a truly miserable retirement.

Hence the advice "do your homework". It's apparent from his posts that he is aware of the risks. Following the gays and artists generally points to transformation but nothing is guaranteed in life.
The above advice about a commercial building is also a good point. I'm just about to convert my shop to a living space for all the above reasons.

Tobra 03-12-2015 09:27 AM

No.

If it is anywhere near the Astrodome or on the North side near Gunspoint, I mean Greenspoint, mall, hell no.

bivenator 03-12-2015 09:46 AM

EaDo seems to be poised for growth with the expansion of the toy train. You mentioned that weren't amenities there (i.e. grocery stores) but that will probably change soon. I think your kids are out of the house so no consideration for schools are needed. I like the thought of industrial space to renovate and the east side may have that.
Good luck and look forward to seeing your choice.


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