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certainly looking a bit questionable. we don't know if the pilot in the cockpit was incapacitated in any way?
one would think however that the autopilot would have kept the plane on a proper course. we need more info soon! |
The names and histories of the pilots would be helpful, I think.
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Why doesn't both pilots have keys to the cockpit...assuming the lock can be accessed from the outside? Or is it a "bolt" type of lock?
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Unless the pilot in the cockpit is awake and actively resisting entry, there are ways for the pilot outside to get in. Decompression automatically unlocks the door, so we can rule that out. Apparently there is a deadbolt.
Sad to say, but if this is true, it looks like the guy in the cockpit set a descent into terrain and then threw the deadbolt on his side of the door. |
I would think if both pilots have keys, one pilot outside the cockpit could be overwhelmed by a ne're-do-well who could then invade the cockpit.
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uh, who said anything about keys?
Apparently there is a proceedure, but no responsible pilot (I'm not a pilot) will discuss it publicly. |
generally a flight attendant will enter the cockpit when one of the pilots uses the facilities and another flight attendant will stand in front of the bulkhead (as if that would stop a charging 2 year old).
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I've always suspected pilot suicide when situations like this arise. But, being locked out of the cockpit seems completely unacceptable. There must be other ways to get in besides keys or a deadbolt.
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This is the Airbus cockpit door procedure. Knocking on the door is not one of the entry options.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixEHV7c3VXs |
Coincidentally, I got off a long haul A320 flight into Singapore last night and read about this incident.
Imagine, sitting in 2B watching one of the pilots, at first tapping on the flight deck door, then knocking, then entering the keypad numbers (it seems) and having them overridden from inside, then trying to breakdown the blast proof door, all the while feeling the aircraft tip over into descent .....jesus crist, what a scenario. |
News agencies going off the goddamn rails right now on reporting this... I am sure there were news people jumping for joy that anther plane had gone down this year... they are seeing those page-clicks and tv-ratings in their eyes.
I can't read any normal news site because of this crap. The general public doesn't 'NEED TO KNOW' anything here other than 1) plane crash and 2) nobody survived and 3) there isn't any immediately known threat to anyone else at this time. That's it. They could stop there and go back to other things. But no. It's speculation station out there (and in this thread) with people DEMANDING to find out more... jesus christ what have we become. Even this thread... it's 5 f*&%ing pages already. I don't understand why everyone requires to much though on this. |
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Lousy way to spend 18 minutes watching that unfold. The failure to release crew names puzzles me. Why not if the locked cockpit story is NYT cr4p and the powers-that-be are suspecting mechanical /electrical fault or crew incapacitation? |
Because the crew has family members and nothing is confirmed yet.
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This I not European SOP.
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Richard Quest and CNN.....tools
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Kings and rings aside, this is looking like that Egyptair crash a few years back. Without trying to agitate anyone's delicate sensibilitities, if this is another murder/suicide allot more needs to be done to protect the public from psychotic mass-murdering airline pilots. |
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